Nice!
You really think handing out a pamphlet is going to do much good? How about having the NRA develop basic guns courses for public schools?
Wait, why is it that safety and accident prevention when presented by pediatricians is automatically bad, but when presented by the NRA it’s automatically good?
I don’t know that presenting it by the pediatrician is automatically bad, I would doubt however that it is very effective. I’m pretty sure most gun owners do trust the NRA to look out for them better than the AMA, and probably think they could teach gun safety better, since they already do that. Disagree?
Why is it ineffective? Because organizations like the NRA have fostered a climate of fear regarding receiving gun information from anyone but the NRA, I would suspect. The reason gun owners are skeptical of receiving gun safety information from pediatricians is because the NRA says they should be. There is no qualitative difference between your doctor’s office saying “keep your guns locked up and away from kids” and the NRA saying “keep your guns locked up and away from kids”, except that when the doctor says it they’re being “anti-gun” and when the NRA says it, they’re “taking a responsible step towards encouraging gun safety”.
The NRA is dedicated to lobbying on behalf of gun manufacturers. The extent to which they serve the interests of gun owners is a happy semi-accidental cover story.
Asking them to come in to schools to do an educational program on safety is like asking Coca-Cola to come in to do an educational program on nutrition.
I don’t know that it is, but I expect handing out a pamphlet by a physician who maybe has never shot a gun ever, to not be vert effective. In medicine they usually do studies to see if something is effective. Do they have any?
OK, so how about we compromise. Pediatricians should continue to hand out their pamphlets (which I have to think are relatively inexpensive at least) and we have the NRA develop gun safety courses for public schools. Good idea? Or are you really not very serious about promoting gun safety?
Have you taken a gun safety course before? Would you rather have states Game and Fish departments develop the safety courses? I would be in favor of that too. They are experienced in doing so also.
Why do you assume all pediatricians have never shot guns? Would it make a difference to you if the pediatricians were all gun owners? The assumption you’re making is that anyone interested in talking about gun safety must not know anything about guns. I find that to be a pretty stupid assumption.
Your “NRA teaches mandatory gun safety in schools” is a stupid idea too. How about you teach gun safety to gun owners first, then we’ll talk about gun safety classes for children.
And your statement that if we don’t agree with you we’re against gun safety, no matter how stupid your idea is, is telling.
How much stuff do you remember from school?
I know that any safety training given to me was either irrelevant because I already knew it (hooray for proactive parenting), woefully ineptly taught, or both. And kids still started smoking, got pregnant, etc.
I wouldn’t trust an organisation in the pocket of gun manufacturers to run a gun safety course in schools, for fear it would turn into a stealth sales pitch. It’s like expecting tobacco companies to run anti-smoking initiatives.
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What?
I didn’t assume that you stupid bitch. That’s why I used the word “maybe.” Nice strawman though.
It might, but obviously that would be a stupid assumption.
I didn’t assume that either. Are you retarded? However if you want gun people to trust the instructions, gun people will want to hear it from other gun people. Get it?
[quoteYour “NRA teaches mandatory gun safety in schools” is a stupid idea too. How about you teach gun safety to gun owners first, then we’ll talk about gun safety classes for children.[/quote]
Children become gun owners, and live in the homes of guns owners, and generally learn better. I think we should teach adults too, but adults don’t all go to public schools so are harder to reach.
OK, I see you don’t want children in a country with almost as many guns as their are people to know how to safely handle a firearm and check to see if its loaded. You are really here just to push an anti-gun agenda. I get it. 
Aww, he’s sad because his bullshit false dilemma didn’t work out. Maybe we should hold a clinic in your local middle school to educate people about the dangers of using logical fallacies.
Oh, you’re sad because not enough children have died yet for you to push through your true agenda.
Preparing for the mothership landing?
Just, you know, trying to feel out the far boundary of your paranoiac fantasy here.
You are aware that most of communication is non-verbal, right?
Have you never heard someone say “Oh, that’s a great idea. :rolleyes:” in a sarcastic tone where the meaning was clearly that it’s a terrible idea?
My anecdotal experience of being asked was that the doctor assumed that as a decent human being and parent I wouldn’t have a gun. The question was phrased something like “You don’t have any guns in the home, right?” It was clearly assumed that I didn’t have any. A good parent shouldn’t have any. She was shocked that I answered in the affirmative.
It was in a very liberal city, so admittedly that probably didn’t help matters.
Wow, that’s the level of WOOSH! normally reserved for siberian dashcam videos.
Not really, because this is precisely the sort of research that has been stifled by the gun lobby.
Would you favor a tax on all gun and ammo purchases to pay for it?
You’re right. Our secret agenda is to have as many kids die as possible so we can ban guns so no kids die anymore. Did your local NRA safety meeting teach you that?
I do wonder what our ulterior motive is. I hope it’s not something as trite as Obama wants to turn the US over to the One World Government or something like that.