# I Pit anyone who doesn't know Karl Rove is a disgusting slimeball **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 9, 2012, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294 "2012-02-09T08:43:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/21 "2012-02-09T18:36:10Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, he was smart enough to be eligible to study abroad, anyway. I admit not knowing about the alleged efforts of his uncle, but they look moot in any case. [Here](http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm) is a bit more of a timeline. I can’t vouch for every single line of it, but it is how I found the \*LA Times \*article above. As is usually the case with Clinton, it is a case of him making a public statement, and then its being unraveled as a tissue of misrepresentations, false framings, and outright lies. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/22 "2012-02-09T18:42:16Z")
Probably. He’s a politician, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/23 "2012-02-09T18:42:31Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > At least Clinton’s dodge was based on him being smart, and not because of his relatives. I can respect that. Clinton’s dodge was based on political connections with Senator Fulbright, who he had interned with several years before. Not that much of a difference in my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/24 "2012-02-09T18:46:17Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > He’s a politician, after all. Boy, you said a mouthful there. Probably the greatest pure politician of his generation. I am always surprised that he hasn’t died yet. Running for re-election was the mainspring of his life, and now it’s gone. All he can do is watch the money roll in, and get blowjobs when Hilary is out of town. It would be a great retirement for anyone but him. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/25 "2012-02-09T18:50:17Z")
Look! Over there! _IT’S CLINTON!!!_ A diversionary tactic from The Usual Gang of Idiots as expected as it is tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/26 "2012-02-09T18:56:50Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Look! Over there! > > _IT’S CLINTON!!!_ > > A diversionary tactic from The Usual Gang of Idiots as expected as it is tiresome. Either **Bryan Ekers** is an Idiot, or you are. I know which way I’m betting. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/27 "2012-02-09T19:02:02Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Either **Bryan Ekers** is an Idiot, or you are. > > I know which way I’m betting. > > Regards, > Shodan So says The Magic 8-Ball of Idiocy. When it comes to who said what, you’ve shown that you are the _last_ person anyone should consult, memo boy. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/28 "2012-02-09T19:05:36Z")
I wasn’t intending to invoke Clinton as a distraction. I only mentioned him as an afterthought. Personally, I think putting him back into the Oval Office wouldn’t be a bad idea. And that’s the last I’ll say of him in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/29 "2012-02-09T19:07:13Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I admit not knowing about the alleged efforts of his uncle, but they look moot in any case. Well, certainly the voters thought so. They elected Clinton president over a combat veteran - twice. Of course, they then did the same thing for Bush twice. And they then elected President Obama over a combat veteran - one Bush had previously beaten in a Republican nomination contest. So probably the one thing we can learn out of all of this is that as some people on message boards argue over who met and didn’t meet their “obligations” (generally in a partisan fashion) voters will ignore this and choose who they want. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/30 "2012-02-09T19:08:26Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I wasn’t intending to invoke Clinton as a distraction. I only mentioned him as an afterthought. > > Personally, I think putting him back into the Oval Office wouldn’t be a bad idea. And that’s the last I’ll say of him in this thread. Could you talk about Hillary a bit so we can at least keep the name alive? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/31 "2012-02-09T19:08:28Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I wasn’t intending to invoke Clinton as a distraction. I only mentioned him as an afterthought. Which was rather obvious, which is why you aren’t grouped with TUGOI that used it as an excuse to change the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/32 "2012-02-09T19:15:42Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Which was rather obvious, which is why you aren’t grouped with TUGOI that used it as an excuse to change the subject. You, on the other hand, would need an IQ boost of forty points at least before you could fill out the membership application. In crayon. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/33 "2012-02-09T19:22:15Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > You, on the other hand, would need an IQ boost of forty points at least before you could fill out the membership application. > > In crayon. > > Regards, > Shodan Another spewing from The 8-Ball, folks-collect them all. edited to add-Read any good Halperin memos lately? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/34 "2012-02-09T19:33:27Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > In another thread, I’m contending that a drop in gun crime numbers means that gun control advocates’ predictions were wrong. I was challenged to provide specific, methodologically sound data sets before the proposition could be accepted. > > I’m wondering why that same spirit of rigor doesn’t apply here? Perhaps because you are the first person to ask? Unlike in your thread, the majority of people here accept at least the general thrust of the OP’s argument, and thus less is required to persuade them that their information is correct. Other than **Shodan** and perhaps you, no one in this thread regards the OP’s claim as extraordinary, so no one has thought to require large amounts of proof. I also believe it is not an unusual position to posit that someone that has invoked one type of treachery might be involved in another similar type. This really is just one step above what Rove usually did. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/35 "2012-02-09T19:35:37Z")
This could be just the break the Kerry campaign is looking for! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/36 "2012-02-09T19:37:31Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > This really is just one step above what Rove usually did. At first I thought you meant to say “…just one step _below_ what Rove usually did”, but on second thought, maybe you had it right the first time. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/37 "2012-02-09T19:38:57Z")
I think Rove is too smart to have done this. Why risk bringing up that whole can of worms again? This is like the thread going on in the Elections Forum right now where at least one poster thinks Obama’s new mandate for contraception in health insurance is a chess move to force the Republicans to back an unpopular position. We don’t live in a _Foundation_ society where brilliant sociologists can accurately predict mass behaviors that accurately. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/38 "2012-02-09T19:44:01Z")
Heh, I actually distracted _myself_ and forgot to reply to this: > [@Shodan](#): > > All the evidence that he did was forged by Karl Rove. Really? - so it wasn’t a big reply. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/39 "2012-02-09T19:48:54Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Heh, I actually distracted _myself_ and forgot to reply to this: > > Really? And it would have worked - if it weren’t for you meddling _kids_! Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294/40 "2012-02-09T19:52:01Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I think Rove is too smart to have done this. Why risk bringing up that whole can of worms again? He would “risk” it because that can of worms was already opened, and the ploy worked in both burying that can deep and ruining the careers of people he disliked. People who are “too smart” do shit like this and get away with it all the time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-anyone-who-doesnt-know-karl-rove-is-a-disgusting-slimeball/612294.md?page=3)