# I Pit Babale

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 7, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738 "2025-04-07T14:59:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/481 "2025-06-25T07:42:43Z")

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Haven’t seen the Mort Sahl thing but I’ve been admiring your posts in the warmonger thread. It’s impressive how you continue to double down on being a lying disingenuous sack of shit. It’s practically a logarithmic curve now.

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**Author:** ![Boudicca90](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boudicca90/32/16818_2.png) [@Boudicca90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boudicca90)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/482 "2025-06-25T18:08:42Z")

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Yep, he shows time and time again what an absolute shitbag he is. He cares absolutely zilch about how many human lives are destroyed as long as it advances his goals. In this and many other respects, he fits in perfectly with the Republican Party during the Dubya years.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/483 "2025-06-26T14:38:45Z")

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He really enjoys the suffering of others, it’s his hobby. I think he’s one of those people who just wakes up seething with hatred and then tries to justify why.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/484 "2025-06-27T15:30:41Z")

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In response to a Haaretz article in which IDF soldiers report they’ve been ordered to shoot unarmed civilians who posed no threat, while waiting for food, and using “Squid Games”-like instructions to those civilians, resulting in death for those that “break the rules”, Babale waves it all away:

> [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/4594):
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> Because the area surrounding the food site is not open to the public when the site isn’t distributing food. And after soldiers signal that this is a combat zone not open to civilians by firing warning shots, and people keep approaching them anyways, I have no idea how you or the article can determine that the soldiers or aid workers are not under threat in that situation. roll_eyes The fact that (an anonymous source claims that) some 18 year olds employ some gallows humor when under incred…

Just gallows humor. No big deal to Babale! There’s always an excuse for why the latest incident of mass murder is okay… even if an IDF soldier involved specifically says it was wrong!

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/485 "2025-06-28T08:13:23Z")

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Is there any reason this POS isn’t banned yet?

Isn’t advocating for mass murder the goddamn definition of hate speach?

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/486 "2025-06-28T15:37:02Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> > [@needscoffee](#):
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> > Well, hardy-har, asshole, instead of making MortSahlFan look bad, you made yourself look like a complete jerkface.
> 
> Are you high off your ass? “Making MortSahlFan look bad”? What the fuck are you on?

Making MortSahlFan look bad is just a pallet-cleanser between courses of making MaierKahaneFan look good.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/487 "2025-08-01T04:52:48Z")

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…from the Gaza discussion thread:

> [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/4927):
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> No, you just _hinted_ that maybe _someone_ pro-Israel is secretly and insidiously trying to control politicians through death threats, with absolutely no evidence provided. I brought Torres up as an absurd example that’s obviously untrue, in order to try and sus out what you _actually mean_ with those quite loaded statements; but you’ve been refusing to clarify.
> 
> Forget it, wink wink and nudge nudge away. It’s not worth trying to nail down a claim.

I literally don’t know what the fuck they are talking about here. Go back and read the original exchange. I wasn’t “hinting” at anything.

There is this fantasy version of me sitting inside Babale’s head. But if someone could explain to me exactly what the fuck they are talking about here, that would be appreciated.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/488 "2025-08-01T11:45:38Z")

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All I can explain is that he’s the second person I’ve blocked in years. I can’t always resist clicking the “see hidden reply”, but blocking him helps me remember that he’s an unhinged child and that nothing good will come of engaging in conversation with him.

You’re doing good work documenting the horrors of Israel’s genocidal actions. If there weren’t people like Babale in the world, that genocide wouldn’t be happening, so it’s not particularly surprising we have one of them on the board. I don’t think you should worry too much what the fuck he’s on about.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/489 "2025-08-01T11:54:43Z")

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He is a hateful person and a reminder that evil is a toxic mixture of fear and sel-loathing.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/490 "2025-08-01T12:05:06Z")

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I endorse the pitting but I still think/hope he’s going to accept, eventually, that Israel is overseeing atrocity after atrocity. And he’ll be ashamed. But it may still be a while.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/491 "2025-08-01T12:29:53Z")

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> [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/4914):
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> > [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/4912):
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> > The thing they aren’t doing is finding other Israel supporters who they are in lockstep on 90% of the issue and sending them death threats.
> 
> …are you sure?

> [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/4917):
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> But I was only talking about the _first_. So are you sure Richie Torres isn’t getting death threats, and if he is, do you know what the source is?

> [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/4917):
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> “Are you sure” is a perfectly valid question here.

Stop playing dumb, Banquet Buddy. I was referring to your ZOG dog whistle above.

You aren’t being _subtle_. The implications is obvious: the nefarious Israelis are using behind the scenes death threats to control their supporters in Congress.

Are you guys _sure_ that BanquetBuddy isn’t the Ayatollah’s favorits booty call? “Are you sure” is a perfectly valid question here. There is, after all, exactly as much evidence that the Aayatollah and BanquetBuddy are engaged in a torrid affair as there is that Ritchie Torres is getting death threats from Pro Israeli sources, so…. Are you SUUUUUUUURE?

And your playing dumb and coy isn’t subtle either, when you ignore posts that explain to you exactly what is going on in favor of JAQing off in the Pit:

> [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/4929):
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> I _think_ this is the bit he’s on about. I think he’s blowing it out of proportion, but it is kind of a weird question. Obviously neither DTS nor anyone else here knows with absolute positive certainty that there are no 100% pro-Israel people making death threats against 90% pro-Israel people, so I’m not sure what the question was meant to accomplish. I guess if someone were inclined to make the least charitable possible interpretation of everything you say, it could look like you’re implying that such death threats _are_ being made.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/492 "2025-08-01T12:34:39Z")

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> [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/4929):
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> Stop playing dumb, Banquet Buddy. I was referring to your ZOG dog whistle above.
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> You aren’t being _subtle_. The implications is obvious: the nefarious Israelis are using behind the scenes death threats to control their supporters in Congress.
> 
> Are you guys _sure_ that BanquetBuddy isn’t the Ayatollah’s favorits booty call? “Are you sure” is a perfectly valid question here. There is, after all, exactly as much evidence that the Aayatollah and BanquetBuddy are engaged in a torrid affair as there is that Ritchie Torres is getting death threats from Pro Israeli sources, so…. Are you SUUUUUUUURE?
> 
> And your playing dumb and coy isn’t subtle either, when you ignore posts that explain to you exactly what is going on in favor of JAQing off in the Pit:
> 
> > [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/4929):
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> > I _think_ this is the bit he’s on about. I think he’s blowing it out of proportion, but it is kind of a weird question. Obviously neither DTS nor anyone else here knows with absolute positive certainty

…what the fuck are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/493 "2025-08-01T12:35:36Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> You’re doing good work documenting the horrors of Israel’s genocidal actions. If there weren’t people like Babale in the world, that genocide wouldn’t be happening, so it’s not particularly surprising we have one of them on the board. I don’t think you should worry too much what the fuck he’s on about.

…thank you.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/494 "2025-08-01T12:58:37Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …what the fuck are you talking about?

……………….………………………………………………….…………………………………………….…………………………………………………….………………………………………….………………………………………….……………………………………………….why were you JAQing off about supposed pro-Israeli death threats to pro-Israel politicians who aren’t hard-line enough?

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/495 "2025-08-01T13:05:02Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> ……………….………………………………………………….…………………………………………….…………………………………………………….………………………………………….………………………………………….……………………………………………….why were you JAQing off about supposed pro-Israeli death threats to pro-Israel politicians who aren’t hard-line enough?

…no seriously, what the fuck are you talking about?

It was a single-sentence response to an unsupported assertion. All I said was “are you sure?”

And from that you’ve managed to concoct some elaborate conspiracy theory. I was just pointing out they had made an _unsupported assertion_.

That’s it. That’s all that sentence meant. No hidden meaning. No other agenda. I wasn’t hinting at anything else.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/496 "2025-08-01T13:08:04Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …no seriously, what the fuck are you talking about?
> 
> It was a single-sentence response to an unsupported assertion. All I said was “are you sure?”

I ask again: why were you JAQing off about supposed pro-Israeli death threats to pro-Israel politicians?

I didn’t ask “for how many sentences were you JAQing off”, any more than I would ask that if a guy who just said one sentence about how scientific racism is true.

……………………………………………….so…. Why were you JAQing off about supposed pro-Israeli death threats to pro-Israel politicians?

……………………………………………….Because…. That’s a pretty ZOGy narrative. Are you _sure_ that you’re only amplifying this Anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that’s quite common on the far Left _by coincidence and not for a more nefarious reason?_ Are you sure is a _very_ valid question here.

Here’s the first example that came up on Google, Hasan Piker claims that Jews controlling the government is a “very real thing that is happening”.

> <https://x.com/Meme_murf/status/1861263333191458890>

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/497 "2025-08-01T13:13:04Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> And your playing dumb and coy isn’t subtle either, when you ignore posts that explain to you exactly what is going on in favor of JAQing off in the Pit:

At least you’ll never be accused of either “playing” dumb or being coy. But well done for once again making up a lie to deflect from your ongoing defense of mass murder you keep claiming isn’t happening while pointedly ignoring all the evidence that it very much is.

At this point I really hope you’re deliberately trolling, because the alternative is that you are a spectacularly morally bankrupt human being.

> [@Babale](#):
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> I ask again: why were you JAQing off about supposed pro-Israeli death threats to pro-Israel politicians?
> 
> I didn’t ask “for how many sentences were you JAQing off”, any more than I would ask that if a guy who just said one sentence about how scientific racism is true.
> 
> ……………………………………………….so…. Why were you JAQing off about supposed pro-Israeli death threats to pro-Israel politicians?

You’ve already had the answer to that, which is: they weren’t doing that. But we get it: you’re fundamentally incapable of being honest about anything.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/498 "2025-08-01T13:25:32Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> I ask again: why were you JAQing off about supposed pro-Israeli death threats to pro-Israel politicians?

…I wasn’t. What the fuck are you talking about?

And what the hell is the _ZOGy narrative_?

I just googled that and the first thing that came up was:

> [@](#):
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> the story of Zog, a young, accident-prone dragon from the children’s book by [Julia Donaldson](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1ONGR_enNZ956NZ956&cs=1&sca_esv=17b78a64cce673d0&sxsrf=AE3TifPnGK6m8E5Ao5WopuUPfe6MzjH7Mg%3A1754054539856&q=Julia+Donaldson&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiTu--t2umOAxXm1jgGHcHgDEwQxccNegQIAhAB&mstk=AUtExfAgiXXcCOsKHjLMtFbSDVqQAsNjjDhRLdVnidgSR046_s8pO7ax51wUv66pd7BKN58eSBS09mqcg1voJ5TyXvXu2c398_SHLGgimUsbgoz9L-xAXXPXJK6GF-fzTDkE5rVSAbKzLHnGxPfSvmKfb4dJ6NjJcf1rE_3H0ZKLsVWtLzv5WMsX6BolmojOCm_KVit889xkLW-molYqrXrJGrdCrvFHBFJi3hhjmzZ0ZJqY4zkoNvvIASq7Hv7SBHCTQZTycaOTPwgpSPQrHevxecT9YE2IKLibd-96JP4yPpC3hw&csui=3) and [Axel Scheffler](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1ONGR_enNZ956NZ956&cs=1&sca_esv=17b78a64cce673d0&sxsrf=AE3TifPnGK6m8E5Ao5WopuUPfe6MzjH7Mg%3A1754054539856&q=Axel+Scheffler&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiTu--t2umOAxXm1jgGHcHgDEwQxccNegQIAhAC&mstk=AUtExfAgiXXcCOsKHjLMtFbSDVqQAsNjjDhRLdVnidgSR046_s8pO7ax51wUv66pd7BKN58eSBS09mqcg1voJ5TyXvXu2c398_SHLGgimUsbgoz9L-xAXXPXJK6GF-fzTDkE5rVSAbKzLHnGxPfSvmKfb4dJ6NjJcf1rE_3H0ZKLsVWtLzv5WMsX6BolmojOCm_KVit889xkLW-molYqrXrJGrdCrvFHBFJi3hhjmzZ0ZJqY4zkoNvvIASq7Hv7SBHCTQZTycaOTPwgpSPQrHevxecT9YE2IKLibd-96JP4yPpC3hw&csui=3).

Are you talking about fucking dragons?

And why are you quoting Hasan? Don’t you remember that I told you before I don’t even like the guy? And I’ve heard maybe 10 minutes of what he’s said before, and I find him abrasive and boring?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/499 "2025-08-01T13:27:31Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …I wasn’t. What the fuck are you talking about?
> 
> And what the hell is the _ZOGy narrative_?

Zionist Occupied Government, the conspiracy theory that Israel controls America’s government through AIPAC, the Epstein files, and - as you alluded to, _unintentionally I’m sure_, Mossad death threats to politicians.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/500 "2025-08-01T13:27:35Z")

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I have never seen anyone so overtly supportive of genocide as he is and I worked in the Balkans during the civil wars. That is not hyperbole.

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