# I Pit Babale **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 7, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738 "2025-04-07T14:59:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/501 "2025-08-01T13:28:46Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > And why are you quoting Hasan? Don’t you remember that I told you before I don’t even like the guy? And I’ve heard maybe 10 minutes of what he’s said before, and I find him abrasive and boring? Which Leftist do you prefer I quote to demonstrate that the conspiracy theory you’re dog whistling to is a serious and insidious problem? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/502 "2025-08-01T13:29:29Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > > [@madmonk28](#): > > God, you’re stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/503 "2025-08-01T13:29:46Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Zionist Occupied Government, the conspiracy theory that Israel controls America’s government through AIPAC, the Epstein files, and - as you alluded to, _unintentionally I’m sure_, Mossad death threats to politicians. …I prefer the dragons. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/504 "2025-08-01T13:30:47Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I prefer the dragons Then why were you dog whistling the conspiracy theory that Pro Israel politicians are receiving death threats for not being pro Israel enough, you slimy piece of shit? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/505 "2025-08-01T13:31:16Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Which Leftist do you prefer I quote to demonstrate that the conspiracy theory you’re dog whistling to is a serious and insidious problem? …the genocide of the Palestinian people is the serious and insidious problem that I WISH you would focus on. Not some outlandish conspiracy theories. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/506 "2025-08-01T13:34:35Z")
We both know that you know exactly what you’re doing. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/507 "2025-08-01T13:41:28Z")
…I don’t have a fucking clue what you think I’m doing. All I know is that I’m living inside of your head. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/508 "2025-08-01T13:46:03Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > All I know is that I’m living inside of your head. That would make you a settler-colonialist ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/509 "2025-08-01T13:51:10Z")
Fuck you, you hateful piece of shit. You are straight up trash. You spend hours of your day defending the slaughter of children. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/510 "2025-08-01T14:54:17Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > We both know that you know exactly what you’re doing. Dude, you seriously need to calm the fuck down. Banquet Bear is a long-time and respected poster here. I get that YOU feel his policy proposals, if implemented, would likely lead to the catastrophic mass slaughter of Israeli Jews, and I think that’s not an unreasonable position to hold. But when you try to claim that BB actually **wants** that outcome, you just look crazy. I would say the same to the people who think _you_ actually want to commit genocide against the Palestinians, rather than just being deeply in denial about the reality of the situation. Also, pretty sure the ZOG trope is strictly a Nazi thing. I’ve never heard even blatantly anti-semitic left-wingers use the term. Also also, pointing out that AIPAC’s pouring millions of dollars each year into political donations gives it a certain amount of influence over government policy doesn’t mean endorsing “an anti-semitic conspiracy theory that Jews control the US government”. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/511 "2025-08-01T14:56:41Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I have never seen anyone so overtly supportive of genocide as he is and I worked in the Balkans during the civil wars. That is not hyperbole. That’s ridiculous, over-the-top hyperbole. If you ask Babale, he will say he isn’t in favor of genocide. Maybe you think he’s lying, but it’s trivially easy to find cites of Israelis who actually do overtly support genocide. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/512 "2025-08-01T15:06:59Z")
I’m telling you, I have known Taliban, Iraqi insurgents and chetniks who didn’t take as much obvious pleasure in suffering. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/513 "2025-08-01T15:09:08Z")
Yeah, be fair, @Banquet_Bear . Mossad will assassinate, hack, torture, lie and terrorize, but death threats! That’s a bridge too far! They’d never do that… > **[Revealed: Israeli spy chief ‘threatened’ ICC prosecutor over war crimes inquiry](https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/28/israeli-spy-chief-icc-prosecutor-war-crimes-inquiry)** > > Mossad director Yossi Cohen personally involved in secret plot to pressure Fatou Bensouda to drop Palestine investigation, sources say ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/514 "2025-08-01T15:18:00Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Also, pretty sure the ZOG trope is strictly a Nazi thing. I’ve never heard even blatantly anti-semitic left-wingers use the term. Five years ago, I would have agreed with you. Today, I’d say that clearly you’ve never been on Hasan’s Discord. > [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Also also, pointing out that AIPAC’s pouring millions of dollars each year into political donations gives it a certain amount of influence over government policy doesn’t mean endorsing “an anti-semitic conspiracy theory that Jews control the US government”. Sure, but in the grand scheme of things, AIPAC is a rather small lobbying group compared to many industry focused lobbying groups, and so I find the focus on it rather suspicious. > [@madmonk28](#): > > I’m telling you, I have known Taliban, Iraqi insurgents and chetniks who didn’t take as much obvious pleasure in suffering. More projection than a fucking megaplex. What suffering am I taking pleasure in, you dumb fuck? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/515 "2025-08-01T15:44:17Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > > [@Babale](#): > > > > We both know that you know exactly what you’re doing. > > Dude, you seriously need to calm the fuck down. Banquet Bear is a long-time and respected poster here. I get that YOU feel his policy proposals, if implemented, would likely lead to the catastrophic mass slaughter of Israeli Jews, and I think that’s not an unreasonable position to hold. But when you try to claim that BB actually **wants** that outcome, you just look crazy. This is true. > [@Babale](#): > > Sure, but in the grand scheme of things, AIPAC is a rather small lobbying group compared to many industry focused lobbying groups, and so I find the focus on it rather suspicious. It’s kind of relevant when specifically discussing the war in Gaza, and the US response. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/516 "2025-08-01T15:48:11Z")
Babale: > [@Babale](#): > > What suffering am I taking pleasure in, you dumb fuck? Also Babale, when discussing the start of the starvation last year: > 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/517 "2025-08-01T15:53:05Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > …it’s trivially easy to find cites of Israelis who actually do overtly support genocide. Yesterday was the 23d anniversary of the [Hebrew University bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_University_bombing) that killed nine and injured about 100. > [@](#): > > Palestinian [Islamist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamist) organization [Hamas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas) claimed responsibility for the bombing during a rally in [Gaza City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_City) attended by some 10,000 supporters. A masked Hamas speaker said: “This operation today is a part of a series of operations we will launch from everywhere in Palestine”. At the speakers’ request, the entire crowd knelt to pray that future Hamas attacks “would succeed against the enemy of God”.[ But in no way supporting genocide, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/518 "2025-08-01T16:04:12Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Also Babale, when discussing the start of the starvation last year: Was I reacting to starvation, or to your false claim where you took a projection from two years ago and presented it as evidence that starvation occurred between when that projection was made and the date we talked? But you lie about everything else, because you’re a piece of shit scumbag, so why would anyone expect honesty from you here? ---
**Author:** ![We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/We_re_wolves_not_werewolves)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/519 "2025-08-01T16:11:38Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Also Babale, when discussing the start of the starvation last year: I know this is the pit, but this is completely disingenuous of you. You know as well as everyone else that that was not his reaction to the fact of starvation ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/520 "2025-08-01T16:15:41Z")
He was dismissive of the possibility of starvation, and he continues to be either in denial or dismissive of the very strong evidence of starvation in Gaza. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738.md?page=27)