# I Pit Babale

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 7, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738 "2025-04-07T14:59:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/581 "2025-08-03T14:55:16Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> we are being ridiculous.

Not something I said.

I can easily see how someone (not limited just to someone as biased as you, either) could read that post in isolation and interpret it that way. Nothing ridiculous about it.

Which is why _I corrected myself_. Because that is a thing I can do. You should try it, sometime. I suggest something around genocide, or starvation…

> [@Babale](#):
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> I find that dichotomy fascinating.

Oh, look, it’s the Antisemitism Signal. Gosh, haven’t seen that one in … hours.

> [@Babale](#):
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> I don’t know you from Khomenei.

I don’t have as nice a beard. Or headwear.

Hah hah, you think that was going to needle me? Try harder, _chaver_.

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**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/582 "2025-08-03T15:05:58Z")

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Nothing is ever a done deal. In the years between the 60s and now a lot of people’s lives have been better because of the civil rights era. We didn’t have mind reading machines back then so we couldnt banish all the white people whostill held racism in their hearts.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/583 "2025-08-03T15:08:05Z")

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You didn’t need mind reading machines to not elect Reagan etc.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/584 "2025-08-03T15:15:03Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Oh, look, it’s the Antisemitism Signal. Gosh, haven’t seen that one in … hours.

Oh, my bad, I wasn’t trying to imply that you’re Anti-Semitic. Sorry if you took it that way.

I was pointing out that you don’t _actually_ give a flying fuck about _either_ of these words choices, you’re just weaponizing implications of racism against @Dr.Strangelove and others. But you’re perfectly fine with doing the same thing to other people, because there are no bad tactics, only bad targets.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/585 "2025-08-03T15:22:35Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Oh, my bad, I wasn’t trying to imply that you’re Anti-Semitic. Sorry if you took it that way.

Sure, buddy. Whatever you say 😉

> [@Babale](#):
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> I was pointing out that you don’t _actually_ give a flying fuck about _either_ of these words choices,

Except I very much do give a flying fuck about racism either way. That’s why I cared about how @DrStrangelove used that stereotype, and that’s why I care when you try and sell such bullcrap as Israel being a liberal democracy where Arabs won’t be second class citizens through the Magic of Liberalism™.

> [@Babale](#):
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> But you’re perfectly fine with doing the same thing to other people

Pointing out that _a bunch of_ Israelis are racist fucks to Arabs isn’t racism, _achi_. It’s statistics.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/586 "2025-08-03T15:35:01Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Pointing out that _a bunch of_ Israelis are racist fucks to Arabs isn’t racism, _achi_. It’s statistics.

Mhmm, you and white supremacists are two peas in a pod. You just jerk off over different statistics. Nick Fuentes masturbates to the percent of black people in the population and the percent of convicted criminals who are black; Smotrich to the percent of Palestinians who support Hamas; and you to the percent of Israelis you claim are racist. You all sure love your statistics.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/587 "2025-08-03T15:40:05Z")

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My, you _do_ spend an inordinate amount of time fantasizing about what I masturbate to.

What was that about every accusation? _Someone_ clearly has a spreadsheet with the daily death toll at the ~~convenient famine victim assasination concentration points~~ GHF “aid sites” and is typing his responses one-handed. Do you go faster on triple-digit days?

Also, the fact that you can’t actually respond with statistics as to how non-racist Israelis are towards Arabs is noted.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/588 "2025-08-03T15:56:31Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> My, you _do_ spend an inordinate amount of time fantasizing about what I masturbate to.

I’m glad you’re focusing on that part and conceding that you are indeed just like Smotrich and Fuentes.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Also, the fact that you can’t actually respond with statistics as to how non-racist Israelis are towards Arabs is noted.

And I’m sure there’s no Anti-Semitism whatsoever in the Palestinian population, or in the wider Arab world, right?

Do you want statistics about who is _more_ bigoted?

Yeah, obviously as a whole, the Israeli and Palestinian populations are not fans of one another. Let’s be honest about what Palestine would be like for Jews when it gains its independence. If there even are any who aren’t “ethnically cleansed” from Palestine the way settlers in Gaza were during the withdrawal, we all understand that there wouldn’t even be the _fiction_ of equal citizenship for Jewish residents, right?

Should that fact make me reject the idea of a Palestinian state? I think that would be pretty fucking stupid. A Palestinian state that’s hostile to Jewish residency and unfriendly to Israel is still a step on the path to peace.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/589 "2025-08-03T16:10:52Z")

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Let’s make this question a separate thread.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/590 "2025-08-03T16:14:46Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> I’m glad you’re focusing on that part and conceding that you are indeed just like Smotrich and Fuentes.

Ignoring inanities isn’t a concession of jack-shit. You seriously think this 3rd grade crap is a winning argument strategy? Pathetic, I prefer it when you’re just spewing invective and not failing at being, for want of a better word, “clever”.

> [@Babale](#):
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> And I’m sure there’s no Anti-Semitism whatsoever in the Palestinian population, or in the wider Arab world, right?

_I’m_ sure there’s plenty. _Overwhelming_ amounts, even. Was that ever in doubt?

Wait, were you actually _seriously_ trying to “whatabout” with _that_? Cute.

Go back to fapping over dead Palestinian babies, Bable, it’s what you’re best at.

> [@Babale](#):
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> Let’s be honest about what Palestine would be like for Jews when it gains its independence.

It’d be a nightmare. I’m certainly not suggesting any Jews try and live in Palestine.

So you’ll be taking back the _3⁄4 million_ who live outside the Green Line in your _Néa Ioudaía_, I take it?

> [@Babale](#):
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> What exactly do you think America should have done differently during the civil rights era that would have meant that “racists were not largely tolerated”?

Stronger and earlier federal enforcement, strict accountability for govt. officials especially in Jim Crow areas, Media and public condemnation, create a national education department, eviscerate state’s rights, real economic redress, etc. Basic stuff that they never actually attempted, or only lackadaisically. You know, pretty much like Israel does now with Arabs.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/591 "2025-08-03T16:19:06Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Let’s make this question a separate thread.

Sure. As long as you open it in the Pit. I’m not going to even try to be civil to you in GD or PE any more, genocide-denying motherfucker.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/592 "2025-08-03T16:27:29Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> So you’ll be taking back the _3⁄4 million_ who live outside the Green Line in your _Néa Ioudaía_, I take it?

I’d absolutely be in favor of evicting settlers by force if necessary as part of a two state peace deal. I’ve said so repeatedly.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/593 "2025-08-03T16:31:57Z")

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Whatever virtue signaling you’re into is fine. If you’re incapable of engaging in good faith, we don’t have to engage at all.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/594 "2025-08-03T16:35:32Z")

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All settlers in all areas beyond the Green line? That’s good of you. Perhaps you’re not a _complete_ shitstain.

> [@Babale](#):
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> virtue signaling

Tell us again how you’re absolutely a liberal…

> [@Babale](#):
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> If you’re incapable of engaging in good faith

Good faith =/= civility. Perfectly possible to argue in bad faith and be civil.

> [@Babale](#):
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> we don’t have to engage at all.

That’s the way I like it, yes.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/595 "2025-08-03T16:36:09Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> That’s the way I like it, yes.

👋

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/596 "2025-08-03T16:36:56Z")

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Fuck you, too…

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/597 "2025-08-03T16:51:40Z")

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[Just asking questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/left-of-liberal-dopers-how-could-america-have-done-civil-rights-right/1021662), eh?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/598 "2025-08-03T17:00:39Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> [Just asking questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/left-of-liberal-dopers-how-could-america-have-done-civil-rights-right/1021662), eh?.

Are you _actually_ stupid enough to think I meant what you claimed I meant in that thread? Or are you just an asshole?

You really think I consider Reagan a _liberal_?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/599 "2025-08-04T06:15:30Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> At this point I really hope you’re deliberately trolling, because the alternative is that you are a spectacularly morally bankrupt human being.

I vote for both. This poster is worthless.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/600 "2025-08-04T20:14:12Z")

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(Nevermind, I’ll stay out of this)

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