# I Pit Babale **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 7, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738 "2025-04-07T14:59:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/601 "2025-08-11T09:58:56Z")
Babale has fallen silent about Israel and Gaza in the past week, while he’d been going at it like _Gangbusters_ all year. Could it be he’s reached the point where even he can’t defend the genocide any longer? Or is he just on vacation? It is August. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/602 "2025-08-11T09:59:31Z")
Just enjoy the silence while it lasts. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/603 "2025-08-11T10:31:25Z")
If he decided to take a break from these threads I’m OK with that. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/604 "2025-08-11T12:51:35Z")
It’s gotten to the point where the IDF is opposing the government plans. > **[Netanyahu reportedly plans to occupy Gaza, in move opposed by IDF brass and...](https://www.jta.org/2025/08/05/israel/netanyahu-reportedly-plans-to-occupy-gaza-in-move-opposed-by-idf-brass-and-majority-of-israelis)** > > "The die is cast — we are going for a full occupation of the Gaza Strip," said a senior Israeli official. > **[IDF chief says dissent ‘vital,’ ahead of fateful meeting on Gaza occupation plan](https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-chief-says-dissent-vital-ahead-of-fateful-meeting-on-gaza-occupation-plan/)** > > Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir, who reportedly said Netanyahu's plan would 'drag Israel into a black hole,' set to warn security cabinet, as hostage families sound alarm on risk to captives ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/605 "2025-08-11T14:27:22Z")
IDF is worried about being dragged into a black hole? Why worry about that now? They aleady are, and have been for well over a year. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/606 "2025-08-11T14:34:45Z")
Maybe they realize they’re in a hole and want to stop digging? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/607 "2025-08-11T14:57:22Z")
Holy fucking shit, the armchair psychoanalysis is incredibly tedious. I’ve been on a trip and haven’t had a chance to post. There still isn’t a “genocide”, and the idea of annexing Gaza remains as fringe as it always has been. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/608 "2025-08-11T15:41:37Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > There still isn’t a “genocide”, and the idea of annexing Gaza remains as fringe as it always has been. Ah, I see Mister “Never Met Human Suffering He Didn’t Excuse or Deny” is back, and still a lying sack of shit. > **[UN warns Gaza faces ‘starvation, pure and simple’ as child deaths mount – as...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/aug/10/israel-gaza-war-protests-aid-latest-news-updates)** > > Humanitarian office says 37 children have died from acute malnutrition since July, as overall toll nears 100 > [@](#): > > **UN warns Gaza faces ‘starvation, pure and simple’** as child deaths mount. The body’s humanitarian office OCHA said 98 children had died from acute malnutrition since the start of the conflict in October 2023, with 37 of those deaths since July, according to Gaza’s authorities. > [@](#): > > **Meanwhile, at least 61,430 Palestinian people have been killed** and 153,213 others injured in Israeli attacks on Gaza since 7 October 2023, the Gaza health ministry said in a statement on Sunday. At least 61 Palestinian people were killed and 363 others injured in the last 24 hours alone, the ministry said. > [@](#): > > Benjamin Netanyahu says **he wants a ‘civilian administration’** to be established in Gaza after Hamas is defeated. Nope, no genocide or annexation plans here… ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/609 "2025-08-11T16:00:55Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Benjamin Netanyahu says **he wants a ‘civilian administration’** to be established in Gaza after Hamas is defeated. > > Nope, no genocide or annexation plans here… How many times did you have to hit yourself on the head in order to achieve such an ascendant level of stupidity? Your literal quote right there is about Netanyahu’s plan, which is indeed not an annexation. If Netanyahu annexed Gaza, it would be part of Israel. It wouldn’t need a civilian administration to be established. You fucking numbskull. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/610 "2025-08-11T16:11:21Z")
It’s not an ~~genocide~~ annexation it’s an ~~ethnic~~ civilian administration cleansing‽ ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/611 "2025-08-11T16:16:25Z")
And how many legs would a dog have if you called its tail a leg? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/612 "2025-08-11T17:00:14Z")
Uh, so annex as a concentration camp, not as a normal part of the state. That’s certainly much better… ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/613 "2025-08-11T17:00:39Z")
Does the tail come from the Champagne region of France? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/614 "2025-08-11T17:07:51Z")
I’s like you keep asking for a new shovel to dig yourself a deeper hole, but new shovels are shiny and you can see your reflection in them, and a mirror is something you definitely don’t want… ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/615 "2025-08-11T20:23:03Z")
What would a civil administration entail? Things like, pay your taxes to Israel now? Contact Israel to repair the war damage? Switch from working for Gazan industries to Israeli? Depend on Israeli law enforcement, which already targets them? It may be essentially bureaucratic, but it’s still an invasion. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/616 "2025-08-11T20:58:14Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Uh, so annex as a concentration camp, not as a normal part of the state. That’s certainly much better… Israel’s not annexing Gaza. That’s a delusional fantasy. Gaza is _absolutely_ going to get _occupied_. I’m pretty sure I have said that’s the only way this war ends as far back as 2023. But Israel isn’t going to _keep_ Gaza. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/617 "2025-08-11T21:06:08Z")
It’s going to get occupied, and all the people are going to be forced into a few small crowded places. They are going to be concentrated in them, one might say. Doesn’t that strike you as just a tiny little bit problematic? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/618 "2025-08-11T21:08:49Z")
Concentrating the enemy civilian population in camps never goes wrong, just ask the Boers. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/619 "2025-08-11T21:10:27Z")
Israel could have been occupying Gaza from the start. When they captured a hospital with some Hamas stuff in a tunnel, they could have filled the tunnel with concrete, and occupied the hospital to keep soldiers from coming back, while maintaining the operations of the hospital and allowing sick and injured people, and the medical staff based there, to continue using the place as a hospital. Instead, they bombed the building and left the patients to die. And also let Hamas return. There are an awful lot of examples like that. 😢 ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/620 "2025-08-11T21:39:52Z")
Concentration camps don’t poll well. Ghettos have a nice rap influenced sound these days. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738.md?page=32)