# I Pit Babale **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 7, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738 "2025-04-07T14:59:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1161 "2026-09-15T17:25:57Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Saying that America deserved 9/11 is not quite the same thing, but it’s in the same ballpark for sure. No, it’s not fucking close to the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1162 "2026-09-15T17:28:25Z")
And also, while i agree that it would be inappropriate to campaign with someone who said that Black people deserved slavery, i wouldn’t boycott a politician because some hateful nut on the Internet said that and also said he supported the politician. Even if he wrote to all his Internet followers and told them to vote for the guy. I’ve yet to see where Mamdani endorsed this guy. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1163 "2026-09-15T17:37:55Z")
Right, Piker’s 9/11 comment could be generously viewed as an incredibly inappropriate way of expressing the fact that Arab Muslim anti-Americanism is an entirely predictable response to how American foreign policy has harmed them (not only by supporting Israel but by propping up dictatorial pro-American regimes in the Arab world). There’s no analogous argument someone could make to the effect that the behavior of black Africans was in any way responsible for their enslavement. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1164 "2026-09-15T17:41:47Z")
This is a hard thread to keep up with!😀 To the question of condemning support from people who are in some way(s) abhorrent: > **[Tucker Carlson defends Abdul El-Sayed over GOP opponent — USA TODAY](https://apple.news/A4A7mY7onQFex0tAg5WGvjQ)** > > Conservative commentator Tucker Carlson is being openly supportive of Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed over his GOP opponent Mike Rogers. The saying about strange bedfellows exists for good reason. 😳 ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1165 "2026-09-15T17:47:12Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > No, it’s not fucking close to the same thing. Agree to disagree, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1166 "2026-09-15T17:51:21Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > This is a hard thread to keep up with!😀 You’re doing great. 😉 > [@DSeid](#): > > The saying about strange bedfellows exists for good reason. Right? Carlson, when he’s not having a psychotic break from reality, is a political leach. What el Sayed should have said was nothing (wrt Carlson). But he’s in a race to win in MI, and this is no time to make enemies. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1167 "2026-09-15T17:53:26Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > The saying about strange bedfellows exists for good reason. When the far Left and far Right keep jumping into bed together over and over again, it stops being strange, at some point. Slopulists gonna slop. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1168 "2026-09-15T18:01:18Z")
Well usually that’s when they come together on a different axis entirely - sharing on authorianism for example and commonly historically - and in this case maybe coming together on the anti establishment axis? ETA - I suspect Carlson will support any break things position. It doesn’t go the other way though. I have no worries that El Sayeed agrees with other Carlson takes and need no disavowal. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1169 "2026-09-15T18:05:27Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > What el Sayed should have said was nothing (wrt Carlson). What did el Sayed say? I couldn’t find anything he said about Carlson. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1170 "2026-09-15T18:06:53Z")
In the link: > “El-Sayed responded to Carlson’s comments in an appearance on [Pod Save America](https://youtube.com/shorts/1vTz_rCW6Q8?si=IaS6rsjIzplT7843), stopping short to say whether he would welcome the TV personality’s endorsement. > > “What you get in Tucker Carlson is somebody who’s seen up close a lot of the corruption inside MAGA,” he said. “And what I think he sees in Mike Rogers is what all of us see in Mike Rogers: somebody whose only interest is power and the money he can make off of power.”” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1171 "2026-09-15T18:07:40Z")
Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1172 "2026-09-15T18:09:57Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Well usually that’s when they come together on a different axis entirely - sharing on authorianism for example and commonly historically - and in this case maybe coming together on the anti establishment axis? Did you see what Carlson said about this? It’s perfectly clear at this point that he’s a single issue Jewish Question voter. He’s supporting El Sayed because he clearly believes that his anti-semitism is aligned with El Sayed’s anti-Zionism. He may very well be wrong about that, but that’s clearly his motivation here. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1173 "2026-09-15T18:15:41Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > “What you get in Tucker Carlson is somebody who’s seen up close a lot of the corruption inside MAGA,” he said. “And what I think he sees in Mike Rogers is what all of us see in Mike Rogers: somebody whose only interest is power and the money he can make off of power.”” Oof, that’s not great. Tucker Carlson isn’t exposing MAGA corruption from the inside, he’s spreading baseless anti-semitic conspiracy theories. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1174 "2026-09-15T18:22:11Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > What did el Sayed say? I couldn’t find anything he said about Carlson. Per the article: > El-Sayed responded to Carlson’s comments in an appearance on [Pod Save America](https://youtube.com/shorts/1vTz_rCW6Q8?si=IaS6rsjIzplT7843), stopping short to say whether he would welcome the TV personality’s endorsement. > > “What you get in Tucker Carlson is somebody who’s seen up close a lot of the corruption inside MAGA,” he said. “And what I think he sees in Mike Rogers is what all of us see in Mike Rogers: somebody whose only interest is power and the money he can make off of power.” I personally wouldn’t have acknowledged TC in any way, shape or form. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1175 "2026-09-15T20:07:24Z")
From social media posts, pretty much all of Ed Sheeran’s opening acts are withdrawing from his tour, in support of Macklemore and Palestinian rights. Good for them! Fuck Epstein buddy and atrocity apologist Robert Kraft. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1176 "2026-09-15T20:15:28Z")
All the opening acts, plus his own backing band. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1177 "2026-09-15T20:19:39Z")
Now _that’s_ making a statement. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1178 "2026-09-15T20:24:54Z")
I think Macklemore’s statement was perfectly clear years ago when he pulled his Jew costume stunt. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1179 "2026-09-15T20:25:18Z")
Take _that_, Babale. And your shit taste in music. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1180 "2026-09-15T20:26:37Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Take _that_, Babale. How will I ever recover? 😭 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738.md?page=58) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738.md?page=60)