# I Pit Babale **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 7, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738 "2025-04-07T14:59:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2026, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1441 "2026-10-23T18:37:12Z")
I know it’s apocryphal, but I always kinda like “pom” as an anagram of Prisoner of Mother [England]. But sadly it’s just another just so story. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1442 "2026-10-24T22:42:46Z")
Babs is shilling for the poor, misunderstood billionaires, and how much they benefit society, in this thread: > [@Billionaires, CEOs, "corporations", and capitalism- Are things really different, or is it propaganda?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billionaires-ceos-corporations-and-capitalism-are-things-really-different-or-is-it-propaganda/1034073): > > So around here, on Reddit, and elsewhere online, there seems to be a persistent refrain about the current state of things, and how it’s generally due to four things that are huge problems. Namely, billionaires, CEOs, “corporations”, and capitalism. That triumvirate is blamed for every ill of the nation, from income inequality to jock itch. Now I’m not arguing that any of these things are ideal. Far from it. But the commonality of the message coming from people online raises my eyebrows a b… ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1443 "2026-10-25T00:22:01Z")
Don’t you see, grotesque levels of income inequality is all part of the liberal capitalist order! Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are the only ones standing between the horseshoe accelerationists and our precious bodily fluids! ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1444 "2026-10-25T16:24:35Z")
Evidently populism is a cancer. Fuck me for wanting a healthy society, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1445 "2026-10-25T16:30:44Z")
Babs’ politics changed radically after the Oct 7th attacks on Israel. Suddenly everything remotely critical of Israel, or even allied to critics of Israel, became unacceptable to him. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1446 "2026-10-25T16:35:54Z")
Is it: lots of people he knew and respected deciding on their own that Israel’s apartheid system is problematic was challenging to his worldview, ergo they must all be populist sheeple being controlled by Russian disinformation campaigns? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1447 "2026-10-25T16:40:33Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Evidently populism is a cancer. Fuck me for wanting a healthy society, I guess. There’s nothing _healthy_ about the populist cancer you’re peddling, fuckwad. > [@steronz](#): > > lots of people he knew and respected deciding on their own that Israel’s apartheid system is problematic was challenging to his worldview, ergo they must all be populist sheeple being controlled by Russian disinformation campaigns? You’re _actually_ braindead if you think that the reason I oppose economically illiterate populism has anything to do with Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1448 "2026-10-25T16:43:47Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Don’t you see, grotesque levels of income inequality is all part of the liberal capitalist order! Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are the only ones standing between the horseshoe accelerationists and our precious bodily fluids! I already knew you were incapable of reading, so I am not particularly surprised by you ignoring the fact that I’ve been very critical of both of the people you mentioned; in the linked thread I talked about how I expect and am looking forward to the upcoming breakup of Amazon by the FTC. But in the rotten brain affected by populism, you either LOVE Elon or you want to declare a holy war against billionaires as a class; those are the only two options. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1449 "2026-10-25T16:48:24Z")
Just a coincidence, then. Billionaires love Israel, Babale loves billionaires. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1450 "2026-10-25T16:53:29Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Billionaires love Israel, What the fuck are you talking about? I am struggling to read this in any way other than a poorly veiled “Jewish financiers control the world” meme. The richest billionaire, much like you, is obsessed with the idea of Israel controlling the world. > [@steronz](#): > > Babale loves billionaires. Thanks for the demonstration of the brain rot I just mentioned. You either declare a class war or you loooooove billionaires. I get it. One, two, three, four, I declare a Class War. Five, six, seven, eight, go touch grass and log off, mate. Or for the Reddit socialists: One, two, three, four, I declare a Class War. Five, six, seven, eight, my dad’s a landlord which I hate. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1451 "2026-10-25T16:58:50Z")
Ah yes, famous Jewish financiers like Elon Musk, Larry Ellison, and Peter Thiel. All right, I do indeed have better things to do than butt heads with fanatic. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1452 "2026-10-25T16:59:25Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Ah yes, famous Jewish financiers like Elon Musk, Who definitely doesn’t “love Israel”. Which is why I’m pretty confused by your statement. Ok, that’s a lie. I know _exactly_ what you meant. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1453 "2026-10-25T17:01:00Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > All right, I do indeed have better things to do than butt heads with fanatic. _Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. **If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.** _ ~Jean-Paul Sartre, a motherfucking psychic ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1454 "2026-10-25T17:02:08Z")
And we’re back to calling everyone anti-Semites for opposing a far-right government. You’re a special treat. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1455 "2026-10-25T17:03:29Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > And we’re back to calling everyone anti-Semites for opposing a far-right government. No, I’m calling you an antisemite for your bizarre insistence that “billionaires love Israel” when the richest of all billionaires is a ZOG conspiracy theorist just like you, and the equally bizarre insistence that the only reason to oppose socialism is blind devotion to Israel. But nice try at a pivot. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1456 "2026-10-25T17:31:07Z")
Musk has supported the Israeli government since the Oct 7th attacks. He’s a antisemite, sure… But being an antisemite very clearly doesn’t stop bigoted assholes from supporting Israel (hint Trump and most of MAGA). ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1457 "2026-10-26T09:48:50Z")
Let’s take a look at pre-Oct 7th @Babale: > [@Ah honest attempt to 'see the other side' by a Progressive](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ah-honest-attempt-to-see-the-other-side-by-a-progressive/926354): > > There are a couple threads here where posters have told Progressives or Dems in general to see the world from a Trumpers point of view. I am very Progressive and have been for a while. I started out my adult life as a Progressive. However, there was about 15 years or so in ‘the middle’ where I was swinging into the Right. If I hadn’t stepped back, who knows, I might be a Trumper now. What brought me back? Watching the second Bush in office/Cheny etc…but what really nailed it for me was whe… In this thread from 2020, his politics are pretty much indistinguishable from mine. He talks about and criticizes American white supremacism, CIA involvement in foreign coups, wealth inequality, the legacy of colonialism, and much more. He’s pretty much an AOC progressive, borderline DSA Democrat. He started the following thread explicitly to defend the “far left” against criticism by supposedly moderate Democrats: > [@The "Far Left" is already being demonized](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-far-left-is-already-being-demonized/924994): > > Before the Trump presidency is even over, we start hearing talk of how the “Far Left” nearly cost Biden the election. Medicare for All is portrayed as a ridiculous proposition, as is police reform. Will the Democrats give in to this sort of pressure and abandon meaningful police or Healthcare reform? If so, will this really win them the approval and cooperation of Republicans? Frankly, I think the first is all too likely, and the latter won’t happen in a million years. I fear we will see 4 mo… He even specifically praises AOC for her defense of “the left” with regards to the Democratic party: > [@The "Far Left" is already being demonized](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-far-left-is-already-being-demonized/924994/65): > > That AOC interview is spot on. Oct 7th broke his brain. I miss the old Babs. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1458 "2026-10-26T09:57:20Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > What the fuck are you talking about? I am struggling to read this in any way other than a poorly veiled “Jewish financiers control the world” meme. Yes, we’re all well aware that reading comprehension is something you constantly struggle with. Which is why you also constantly ascribe views to others they didn’t state and don’t hold. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1459 "2026-10-26T11:19:47Z")
Here Babs expounds on the evils of modern day corporations: > [@Why are we not working fewer hours?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-we-not-working-fewer-hours/982887/19): > > Business owners and Republicans talk about this situation endlessly. It’s just that rather than working within the market to make jobs more attractive to employees, large corporations lobby the government to make life more miserable for anyone without a stable job. In other words, they’re artificially skewing the market to get the outcome they want. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/1460 "2026-10-26T16:07:50Z")
Wow! I hadn’t recalled this. Quite a stark change. In the billionaire thread I felt like I was arguing with…well, me from 2010. What a ray of sunshine I must have been then. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738.md?page=74)