# I Pit Babale **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 7, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738 "2025-04-07T14:59:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 565
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/565 "2025-08-03T13:06:50Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Do you think America needs to “kick out" all the MAGA supporters to work towards being a more liberal country again? It wouldn’t hurt. Except nobody would take them. > [@Babale](#): > > Wait, never mind, you think America is the root of all evil, don’t you. That’s not leaving a lot of room for Israel, now is it… > [@Babale](#): > > You say this, but you provide zero evidence for it. It’s the exact current Israeli setup, on paper anyway, and that’s manifestly not equal for Arabs. That’s my evidence. > [@Babale](#): > > When did I claim to be a free speech absolutist? Did I say anything about you being an absolutist? > [@Babale](#): > > Is Germany an apartheid because of their laws against advocating against the Constitution? Modern Germans have overall proved themselves much more reasonable and dedicated to the principles of liberalism than modern Israelis. I trust them not to abuse those laws. I don’t trust Israelis not to. _Since they’re clearly abusing liberal-sounding laws like that right now._ > [@Babale](#): > > Which is why Germany in 2025 is a totalitarian hellhole apartheid. Germany is not Israel. One of these countries actually learned the right lessons from the past. One very clearly did not. > [@Babale](#): > > Through the courts? The ones currently doing jack-shit to fix the imbalance? Is this more of you magicing away the actual problems in Israel? Boy, you took the ridiculous American idea of a magical piece of law-paper to heart, didn’t you? > [@Babale](#): > > When did the state of Israel have Arabic as an official language? 1948-2018. > [@Babale](#): > > Again, the courts, numbskull. I don’t think the idiot responding to a quote they repeatedly copied _as if it was a fresh comment_ is in any position to call out intelligence-based insults. Dumbfuck. > [@Babale](#): > > All the ideas I’m outlining are widely supported by parties like Labour. All the ideas you’re espousing are nominally actually there (on paper) already. You don’t need a new Israel, you need new Israelis. The ones you currently have are broken. > [@Babale](#): > > And I don’t know why you’re jerking off to every term you can think of for a new country. To be fair, I did repeat “new Zion”. But glad you noticed. > [@Babale](#): > > liberal democracies Ha ha ha! Nice one! > [@Babale](#): > > You understand that these two statements are simply _not equivalent_, right? Did I say they were? They’re definitely linked, though - and the link is anti-Arab discrimination. > [@Babale](#): > > That’s an aspirational goal for the country, and can be achieved through the courts and through gradual change. The courts aren’t doing anything about the discrimination _now_, and what is going to drive this gradual change? The real demographic growth in your country is via the settlements. They’re hardly bastions of pro-Arab sentiment. Are _you_ going to drive it, comfortably ensconced in … Haifa? Tel Aviv? Oh wait… > [@Babale](#): > > not through whatever fucking delusional nonsense you’re on. I haven’t actually proposed anything yet. > [@Babale](#): > > do you screech at them Oh, “screeching”, that’s almost a [classic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shriekers-here-mrdibble-der-trihs/674467). I’ve been doing this a long time, you think you’re the first fool attempting _Reductio ad Ridiculum_ at me? > [@Babale](#): > > Ideally, through an explicit statement in the Constitution that’s eventually written that says that all citizens are to be treated equally. You mean, like Israel already pays lip service to? How does that change … anything? > [@Babale](#): > > Like in any other country, including all the European Nation-States You mean the ones not currently actively engaging in genocide? Gosh, wonder why they get a pass? > [@Babale](#): > > publicly masturbating about abolishing. Happy for Israel to continue to exist. As an Apartheid state, not so much. > [@Babale](#): > > My point is only that it is _incredibly fucking stupid_ to claim that the lack of Arabic as an official language would make the country an Apartheid. Didn’t say that, despite this being your second try at building that strawman. Said that the _removal_ of official status from Arabic is a symptom of Apartheid. What _makes_ Israel an Apartheid state is a bunch of racist Israelis. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738)._