# I Pit Babale

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**Created:** [April 7, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738 "2025-04-07T14:59:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/627 "2025-12-19T17:14:47Z")

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Babale lies about my position to try and weasel out of inaccurate claims about my words:

> [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/5746):
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> [Motte-and-bailey fallacy - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy#:~:text=The%20motte%2Dand%2Dbailey%20fallacy,(the%20%22bailey%22)). You start off with the motte here: You continue fighting outside the motte here: Then you drop the drawbridge but do not retreat across it here, by introducing some off ramps like “in the back (or otherwise posed no threat)”: And then you post your link without actually sounding the retreat, until I call you on it, and suddenly the motte never existed and you’re only defending the bailey. That’s precisely the beauty of this tactic, isn’t it?

Just another internet liar.

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