If your name started with “Ba”, or had “Baba” in it, I could see Hebrew speakers (especially Hebrew speaking grandmas 
) call you “Baba’leh” as a diminutive, so maybe that’s why.
Sadly I can’t find any pictures of babales online. I might have to reinstall the game later so I can take one.
My understanding is that such things are quite routine in those Salvadorean prisons that the US is sending legal residents who haven’t been convicted of any crime to.
< Cough > Bullshit…! Bullshit…! < Cough >
What do you think is happening to the people is deporting to Salvadoran gang prisons? Yoga and art therapy?
I’m sorry but you must be a true piece of shit if you can go through the kind of abuse you described, and then make light of it happening to someone else just because you dislike the political faction who is calling it out.
It’s not uncommon for people who experience oppression to try and gain some sense of control by identifying with oppressors. Sounds like that’s exactly what you have going on.
Right, it will only be fascism when we can’t do anything about it anymore. Good timing!
That’s just nonsense, I’ve lived in a number of repressive regimes because of my work, including in Palestine when Israelis police would let me in places my Palestinian colleagues couldn’t go and in Russia when Putin was consolidating power and this feels very much like that time. Also, I have a black friend who was held overnight and beaten in an Alabama jail for being on a date with a white woman, so maybe get the fuck over yourself.
First, I’m sorry that happened.
Second, you seem to be leaving out key details here-
When did this happen? Where did this happen? What kind of authority figure? Did you actually do something that while illegal was not remotely a cause for violence? Or did they literally just grab you off the street?
I’m not doubting that it happened. But without knowing these details, I’m not seeing the relevance. I have known plenty of people who were routinely beaten bloody by a sadistic authority figure- their fathers. I don’t deny the abuse those people suffered. It was tragic. It has nothing to do with this thread.
Unless you explain who this sadistic authority figure was and how they and the beating relate to fascism, what authority?
Plus, I would argue that Helga’s experience trumps yours.
Finally, while once again saying that what we are experiencing in the US is not fascism, you have not actually answered my question. Here it is again-
This is how I’ve been saying it (in my mind)
I had an elderly German friend who had a slightly older relative who remembered Hitler’s rise to power who told me her relative said exactly the same thing. They were not Jews. They were “Aryans” and were not grossly mistreated by Germany. They were also decent enough to think Germany had done horrible things under Hitler, and were afraid of Trump.
Thank you.
I read it “Baba’lee”, accent on the third syllable.
But the way, my name is pronounced puzzle-gal. I collect mechanical puzzles. I have no legal background.
I have not.
I have seen masked thugs working for the government grab innocent people off the streets. And some of those innocent people have been shipped to a prison camp in El Salvador, where, I’ve been led to believe, that kind of brutality is the norm. And when the courts ruled on one case, “it was illegal to deport this person”, the Trump administration replied, “haha, too late”.
The most recent court ruling is being reported as a win for Trump (he can deport people to that camp) but it’s not a clean win, as the full ruling is that each person needs to get a hearing in a court of law, first. Something that hasn’t been done, and that would likely have prevented most of those deportations.
So… Has he brutalized innocent people? Yes. Not many, at least, not yet. Will the court orders be obeyed ? Here’s hoping.
Oh, and last time i took the train, there was a gang of armed “department of homeland security police” hanging out on the platform. I dunno what they were doing there, but they sure didn’t make me feel safe.
(On the way back i only saw “transit police”, and they actually do make me feel safe. I asked one about a missing McDonald’s that they knew had been closed but was still on Google maps. No way I’d approach ICE with an innocent question like that.)
Legal Eagle’s been getting a lot of mileage out of this graphic:
How do you know there aren’t innocent people suffering the same kind of beatings and torture because they were sent to El Salvador by this administration without due process? Without due process, how could this be stopped if the administration wanted to do it?
And it should be noted that CBS News has looked for criminal records for the 238 men that were the subject of Boasberg’s order, and has so far found that 75% of them have no known criminal records.
At least 22% of the men on the list have criminal records here in the United States or abroad. The vast majority are for non-violent offenses like theft, shoplifting and trespassing. About a dozen are accused of murder, rape, assault and kidnapping.
For 3% of those deported, it is unclear whether a criminal record exists.
But we could not find criminal records for 75% of the Venezuelans - 179 men- now sitting in prison.
I believe the line from ICE was that having no criminal record was evidence of just how dangerous they were.
So @Gyrate, does that answer your question? Did I miss what you were getting at? Does my answer prove I want to destroy all trans people? What’s the verdict, am I going to the reeducation camps?
I’m also curious about your answer to my question above:
Right?
I’d donate a beer mug full of pennies. Would anyone else care to give?
He doesn’t need first class or a sleeper birth, but sandwiches and coffee should be provided given that he is as passionate about those young girls as a televangelist on
‘blue-chew’.
I’ve already made the point - and backed it up with examples - that Babale keeps deliberately misrepresenting with the intent to minimize, handwaving away, or simply ignoring evidence that what is happening to trans people is much, much worse than he keeps claiming it is.
It is neither bad faith nor trolling. I’m sorry that you think so.
The key words there being “at this point”. He has been in office less than three months.
As has been pointed out several times recently, fascists will happily use the law to further their agenda when they can, and ignore it when they can’t. Both of which the current administration are doing.
My entire point is that he is in no way arguing in good faith. I’m fine with him having different opinions than me. It’s the repeated blatant lying and spinning that’s pissing me off.
How will that differ from all your previous ignoring of my cites proving you to be a bad faith piece of shit liar?
Particularly when there’s evidence of people being eaten by wolves right now.
And this is the exact same bullshit Babale keeps doing. Multiple people have pointed out that this exact thing is happening to people now, yet you’re minimizing this as “virtue signalling”. For someone who claims to have suffered under fascism, you’re certainly doing a good job of making excuses for it.
Now who’s engaging in ridiculous hyperbole?
Funnily enough, John Oliver’s piece this week rightly points out that you can justify anything against trans people just by adding “in sports” to the end of the sentence, despite the fact that there’s no material difference between trans girls and cis girls in school sports, and at the elite level the respective governing bodies for each sport are themselves considering a fact-based approach to their rules on the inclusion of trans athletes.
And this is a deliberate tactic in the anti-trans propaganda campaign. They tried “I’m not against trans people; I just don’t want them in my public restrooms” with limited success, but “I’m not against trans people; I just don’t want them in women’s sports” has gotten traction in a big way. It sounds so reasonable, right? It’s all about fairness and safety, right?
Except that it’s not. There is no sound basis for concern over trans girls and women in sports, either regarding fairness or safety. But this ginned-up controversy has achieved its goal of insinuating the idea that trans people are a threat that everyone else needs to be protected from into normal discourse by people who of course would never themselves dream of supporting discrimination. And the GOP have already used this thin edge of the wedge to cram through all the other horrific anti-trans policies and practices already discussed.
And here you are, happily repeating right-wing anti-trans propaganda. How does that feel? Do you still think “I oppose trans genocide, but…” is a reasonable argument?
Sure. And one that no one is actually advocating. Do you remember what Demontree’s original statement was, that you felt the need to qualify?
Seriously? Dude, you need to pull your head out of your own ass, you’re in DESPERATE need of some fresh air.
If you seriously can’t imagine that I actually hold the position I hold, the same position that most members of the Democratic Party hold, and the same position that the vast majority of Americans hold - if you can’t imagine someone holding THAT position in good faith - then you are not just high on your own supply, you’re overdosing.
What does that even MEAN? You posted cites that show that I don’t actually think trans athletes participating in women’s sports without restriction is unfair? What kind of cite shows what my internal mental state is?
Still the guy claiming there’s a genocide going on, I’d say.
I watched John’s piece - it was fine, I guess, for a progressive piece on the subject - and he did a good job dismantling the right’s false and exaggerated examples, which is great. He didn’t really address my particular objection to trans women in sports, though; in fact, there were a number of times when he said things like, “there definitely ARE differences at the top level of sports and that’s a conversation to have about professional sports and the like” which I am very glad he was willing to admit, and he’s absolutely right.
This specifically is EXACTLY what John Oliver was very careful NOT to say.
First of all, when you say “school sports”, what are you talking about? If we’re talking about PE, then I agree. If we’re talking about, like, Elementary school (1st through 5th grade) or even middle school (6th through 7th or 8th), I agree. If we are talking about recreational sports, I agree.
But if we are talking about a high school’s official “BLANK Team”, that IS the highest level of competition available to children of that age; it feeds directly into university sports and professional sports; and we are into unfair territory.
And citing studies that show that the advantage is mild, like John Oliver did, or saying “but not all winners will be trans women” DOES NOT ADDRESS THE POINT. It’s actually a VERY simple argument:
To be clear, this is what I support; but here in California, for example, it is NOT currently the law of the land. Based on California’s official interpretation of Title IX, there is no physical transitioning requirement at all to participate in sports at colleges.
This is not to say that people are going to pretend to be trans in order to win trophies. That’s, of course, a right wing boogeyman. The point is that a trans woman has an advantage over cis women. That remains true (according to the study cited by John Oliver on his show last night) even when the trans woman is genuinely trans (which I assume is the only sort of person who goes through with transitioning; I’d be very surprised to find out about even one case to the contrary).
That’s because public restrooms are divided for entirely social reasons, not physical reasons. There is no reason except transphobia to demand that restrooms exclude trans people.
I mean, you can declare so, but that’s not what John Oliver said on his show last night. The stats he talked about back up the concern I have, which you haven’t addressed at all.
I agree with you that they address the concerns Tucker Carlson or that Payton Mcnabb liar have; you’ve done a great job dismantling those claims, while ignoring mine. That’s what’s called a ‘strawman’.
You should respond to what I actually write, not what you fever dream about. I haven’t repeated any right-wing propaganda whatsoever.
Being strawmanned and lied about feels pretty shitty 
thanks for asking!
That hasn’t been my argument, you dumb motherfucker. Maybe try reading for a change?
If your point is that she originally was talking about the term ‘transgenderism’, and the fact that I got into a discussion with Kimstu that spun off of that original discussion, and you’ve been imagining that I sign on to the idea that ‘transgenderism’ is some kind of nefarious ideology being pushed on our youth, then I guess you might be pleased to know that I wasn’t really engaging with that part of the discussion at all, because I have no idea what ‘transgenderism’ is supposed to be. I know it’s used as a sneer word, but as far as I can tell, it’s not really a coherent idea.
I was more interested in the specific part of Kimstu’s claim that I quoted:
I think Kimstu’s claim, that only a tiny minority of transgender-rights supporters believe this, is true if we include sexual partners and doctors. But if we exclude those two things, but include sports, then it’s still a minority position among ‘trans rights supporters’ in the sense of people who generally support trans rights, but it’s very much NOT a minority position among ‘trans rights supporters’ in the sense of trans rights activists or communicators, or people whose views are in line with theirs.
That’s why I asked Kimstu:
God, if this really HAS been about the fact that this conversation spun off a different conversation Kimstu had with someone else about the term ‘transgenderism’, that’s BEYOND stupid. I even tried to head off this idiocy by specifying “THIS PART of [Demontree’s] argument”.
I’m too tired to craft something anew, but would still like to reference a previous post (mine) on the “Fascism – are we or aren’t we” subject:
Also, another reference to Lawrence Britt’s 14 Characteristics of Fascism:
Like mass shooters, we always hear that “all the signs were there,” but those signs aren’t pathognomonic for a mass shooter – ie, maybe all mass shooters did the following five things before becoming mass shooters, but lots of kids also do those five things and never harm another soul.
Ditto Fascism, IMHO. But we ignore these characteristics at our peril.
And if your kid is pulling the wings off of flies and burning ants with a magnifying glass, get professional help.
This is not correct. My children (both teenagers) compete in tennis. On both school tennis teams and in amateur USTA events; this is rare. Most participants on school tennis teams do not play USTA events. And most players in USTA events do not play a school team. The school teams are not a higher level competition in tennis.
USTA seems to have a fairly progressive transgender policy.
On the league and recreational side of the equation, the USTA takes the position that we do not require confirmations of gender identity status. Above all, we do not want to be an obstacle to recreational participation. We seek to respect all individuals, and we take it on faith that players who compete under these rules are doing so not to gain a competitive advantage, but to enjoy participating in a manner in which they are comfortable.
https://www.usta.com/en/home/about-usta/who-we-are/national/transgender-inclusion-policy.html