# I pit Bill Gates

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 8, 2006, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874 "2006-04-08T17:59:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/21 "2006-04-08T20:27:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
Especially when they lead to May bannings.  
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oh you silly optimist!  
do you really think he will last until May? 😛

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/22 "2006-04-08T20:34:33Z")

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The good doctor is still piaffing, I see.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/23 "2006-04-08T20:36:41Z")

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[QUOTE=drmark2000]  
You rationalizers of Gates’ practices make me sick. Truly, you are comparable to the prisoners in concentration camps who come to identify with and even worship their prisonkeeps. That’s easier than confronting the cruel truth, eh?  
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What do you think, guys? Is this Godwin-worthy? It’s close enough for me.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/24 "2006-04-08T20:40:07Z")

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[QUOTE=drmark2000]  
You rationalizers of Gates’ practices make me sick. Truly, you are comparable to the prisoners in concentration camps who come to identify with and even worship their prisonkeeps. That’s easier than confronting the cruel truth, eh?  
[/QUOTE]  
I’m not exactly in Bill Gates’ fan club, but at least he’s in the same universe I’m in, rather than some alternate reality, which is where you seem to be.

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**Author:** ![drmark2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@drmark2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drmark2000)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/25 "2006-04-08T20:41:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
Especially when they lead to May bannings.  
[/QUOTE]

Oh, I am sorely disappointed in you, **Miller**. You showed such early promise.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/26 "2006-04-08T20:49:31Z")

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[QUOTE=ultrafilter]  
What do you think, guys? Is this Godwin-worthy? It’s close enough for me.  
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I thought of that, but he’s comparing his enemies to Nazi victims, not Nazis. I’m not sure that counts.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/27 "2006-04-08T20:56:55Z")

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[QUOTE=ultrafilter]  
What do you think, guys? Is this Godwin-worthy? It’s close enough for me.  
[/QUOTE]  
Yup,

> [@](#):
>
> If you’re really bored, a fun game to play is Six Degrees of Godwin.  
> Take a topic - any topic - and see how quickly you can relate it to Nazis using legitimate topic drift methods.  
> For example: a discussion about computers will eventually lead to discussions of keyboards and which are best, followed by a lot of complaining about the Windows key on 104-key keyboards, leading to complaints about Microsoft, forcing the standard MS-vs-government flamewar that I’m sure you’re all aware of, leading to attacks on Microsoft’s “fascist” tactics by one side or another, which will force the other side to start talking about the differences between fascism, capitalism, and, of course, Nazism!  
> The fun never stops!

[Godwin’s Law FAQ](http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/faqs/godwin.html) 'bout halfway down.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/28 "2006-04-08T21:00:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Cheesesteak]  
I thought of that, but he’s comparing his enemies to Nazi victims, not Nazis. I’m not sure that counts.  
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He also appears to be conflating victims of Stockholm Syndrome with WW2 concentration camp inmates, a dubious proposition to say the least.

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**Author:** ![drmark2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@drmark2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drmark2000)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/29 "2006-04-08T21:10:14Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
He also appears to be conflating victims of Stockholm Syndrome with WW2 concentration camp inmates, a dubious proposition to say the least.  
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Conflation, consmlation. Stockholm Syndrome, Shmokholm Shmymdrome. What’s in a name?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/30 "2006-04-08T21:10:28Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
He also appears to be conflating victims of Stockholm Syndrome with WW2 concentration camp inmates, a dubious proposition to say the least.  
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But but but … he has a degree. In clinical psychology. From an accredited university. How could he be mistaken? Plus, you are clearly ignoring all the evidence in the OP. You know, where he provides cites for his claims of “stealing and industrial genocide”?

What is industrial genocide anyway? The deliberate and systemic destruction of an industry? Kind of like what CDs did to phonograph records?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/31 "2006-04-08T21:13:42Z")

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[QUOTE=drmark2000]  
Conflation, consmlation. Stockholm Syndrome, Shmokholm Shmymdrome. What’s in a name?  
[/QUOTE]

Snerk. Just can’t bring yourself to admit you fucked up, can you? 😃

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/32 "2006-04-08T21:18:04Z")

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[QUOTE=drmark2000]  
You rationalizers of Gates’ practices make me sick. Truly, you are comparable to the prisoners in concentration camps who come to identify with and even worship their prisonkeeps. That’s easier than confronting the cruel truth, eh?  
[/QUOTE]

I don’t think anybody here has been rationalizing Gates’ practices or identifying with him. Those who have been most critical have essentially been calmly asking you to back up your accusations.

I don’t think that’s an unreasonable response.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/33 "2006-04-08T21:19:13Z")

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[QUOTE=drmark2000]  
You rationalizers of Gates’ practices make me sick. Truly, you are comparable to the prisoners in concentration camps who come to identify with and even worship their prisonkeeps. That’s easier than confronting the cruel truth, eh?  
[/QUOTE]  
What bullshit. There’s a commonly bandied-about term for this guy, but I’m not allowed to call him that. Suffice it to say that this response is so over the top and out of control that there’s no way in hell I believe for a second that **drmark** actually believes what he’s typing.

Fill in the blanks yerself.

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**Author:** ![rkts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c4cdca/32.png) [@rkts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rkts)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/34 "2006-04-08T21:29:04Z")

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[QUOTE=rkts]  
Wikipedia took me to [this article](http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=235&row=1), which may be relevant to the OP.  
[/QUOTE]

Yeah . . . rereading, I’m pretty sure it isn’t.

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**Author:** ![drmark2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@drmark2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drmark2000)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/35 "2006-04-08T21:29:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
But but but … he has a degree. In clinical psychology. From an accredited university. How could he be mistaken?  
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Indeed I do possess a PhD in clinical psychology from an accredited institution. It is important to point out “accredited” as there are many schools which provide dubious academic and training experience still willing to award a PhD to anyone able to shell out enough. But you wouldn’t know about any of the concerns about those with advanced degrees.

[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Plus, you are clearly ignoring all the evidence in the OP. You know, where he provides cites for his claims of “stealing and industrial genocide”?  
[/QUOTE]

Must I really say this again? DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! Educate yourself, and then you can argue.

[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
What is industrial genocide anyway? The deliberate and systemic destruction of an industry? Kind of like what CDs did to phonograph records?  
[/QUOTE]

More like what the White Man has done to native people the world over. Exterminate and/or enslave.

You have come to identify with your captor, even thanking him for “helping“ you so. Snap out of it!

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/36 "2006-04-08T21:35:55Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
Snerk. Just can’t bring yourself to admit you fucked up, can you? 😃  
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[bones] Damnit woman, he’s a doctor, not a linguist. [/bones]

couldn’t resist.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/37 "2006-04-08T21:35:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> More like what the White Man has done to native people the world over. Exterminate and/or enslave.

You’re a moron.

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**Author:** ![drmark2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@drmark2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drmark2000)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/38 "2006-04-08T21:45:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Ogre]  
You’re a moron.  
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The truth, any truth, terrifies you, but it holds such sway over you only because you run from it. Turn and face the truth, as I do, and it will stop in its tracks and await to do your bidding. Become the master of truth, rather than just another fleeing from a bogey-man of your own creation.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/39 "2006-04-08T21:50:38Z")

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[QUOTE=drmark2000]  
You rationalizers of Gates’ practices make me sick. Truly, you are comparable to the prisoners in concentration camps who come to identify with and even worship their prisonkeeps. That’s easier than confronting the cruel truth, eh?  
[/QUOTE]

Wow. Now if this wasn’t written by a retard it would actually be offensive. Buy a Mac and fuck off already.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-bill-gates/351874/40 "2006-04-08T22:00:54Z")

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[QUOTE=drmark2000]  
The truth, any truth, terrifies you, but it holds such sway over you only because you run from it. Turn and face the truth, as I do, and it will stop in its tracks and await to do your bidding. Become the master of truth, rather than just another fleeing from a bogey-man of your own creation.  
[/QUOTE]  
Actually, I will soon hold a doctorate from an accredited institution in a technical scientific field. the truth no more terrifies me than, say, you. Which is not very much at all.

I was mistaken, however. You’re not a moron.

You’re a smug moron.

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