# I Pit "Cafe Society" people

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 8, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051 "2025-02-08T15:52:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/101 "2025-02-09T04:13:29Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> > [@DaveUnknown](#):
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> > but I did get a crock thing and the intentions to make it…
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> I’m I the only one who dyslexified this into "cock ring? "

I also dyslexified but only for a nanosecond.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/102 "2025-02-09T04:20:35Z")

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Cafe Society, cock rings . . . so, some kind of chicken Jello mold that I’ll likely find on Lileks’ Gallery of Regrettable Food?

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**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/103 "2025-02-09T04:30:30Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> As for the OP, his first post is incoherent and after several other posts I still have no idea what the hell he wants, except apparently to start a fight for some reason. As for sagely informing us that we’re supposed to not like Hellman’s, he can fuck right off.

Hellmans/Best turned to vile swamp emulsion a few years ago. I guaranteeeee it’s not even 32oz.

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**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/104 "2025-02-09T04:33:09Z")

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NO,  
I got a crock from Yoders “country market” online… to make sauerkraut. Shredded cabbage, etc

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/105 "2025-02-09T04:41:10Z")

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> [@DaveUnknown](#):
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> Yoders “country market” online

Yes, but, do they sell cock rings?

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/106 "2025-02-09T04:44:03Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Yes, but, do they sell cock rings?

If so, the Amish and Mennonites are kinkier than we realized.

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**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/107 "2025-02-09T04:44:10Z")

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Does it matter? How the F do you use those things?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/108 "2025-02-09T04:47:35Z")

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> [@DaveUnknown](#):
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> How the F do you use those things?

Why’d you buy one if you don’t know how to use it?

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**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/109 "2025-02-09T04:48:33Z")

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What?  
I’m tellin’

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/110 "2025-02-09T04:52:07Z")

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Imma bet the folks that need to know how to use them already have the info.

It’s on a “need to know” basis.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/111 "2025-02-09T05:00:06Z")

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> [@DaveUnknown](#):
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> Hellmans/Best turned to vile swamp emulsion a few years ago.

I’ve been using Hellmann’s for decades and never noticed it turning to swamp emulsion. You’re probably unaware that Hellmann’s in Canada is made domestically and has a different recipe than the US version (notably made with canola oil instead of soybean oil, and free-run eggs from Quebec and Ontario farms).

> [@DaveUnknown](#):
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> I guaranteeeee it’s not even 32oz.

For once, you’re right, like a stopped clock. It’s 445 grams.

And I still don’t know why you started this thread or what the hell you want.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/112 "2025-02-09T07:26:36Z")

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I’m not sure what you want either.

No need to pit a whole society because someone prefers Hellmann’s.

“Life is like a box of chocolates…”

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/113 "2025-02-09T08:25:35Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> We usually buy Heinz because we always do, but it usually expires before we use it up.

I’m mystified by the concept of ketchup going bad.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/114 "2025-02-09T09:15:00Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> The best ketchup I ever had was from a restaurant that made their own.

It is really easy to make your own. It’s really just a matter of time. Tomatoes, onions, salt, spices… and time.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/115 "2025-02-09T09:20:37Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> I’m mystified by the concept of ketchup going bad.

Ok. So I was in boarding school in Zimbabwe, and occasionlly we got ketchup/tomato sauce with certain meals. So I was around 17 at the time.

One day, I believe, accompanying chicken, we had a weird dark tomato sauce. We checked the “best before” date, and discovered it was 1974, two years before I was even alive.

Being hungry students we ate it anyway.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/116 "2025-02-09T10:01:09Z")

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Eat whatever the hell you want, it’s your stomach.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/117 "2025-02-09T12:29:41Z")

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Indeed, scolding people about which ingredients they do or don’t put on a sandwich is both silly and annoyingly pedantic. That said, Philly cheesesteaks are the lone exception. They must be made according to strict tradition: an authentic Amoroso roll, paper-thin shaved ribeye, Cooper Sharp cheese, and fried onions—no substitutions, no frivolous extras. Anyone who dares violate these sacred guidelines should be drawn and quartered, with each quarter exiled to a different corner of the globe for their culinary crime.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/118 "2025-02-09T13:47:50Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> ETA: ref @Just_Asking_Questions just below: Ketchup is _perfect_ on grilled cheese. And on patty melts. Neither sandwich is complete wo ketchup. Lots & lots of ketchup.

I only use mustard on the sandwich, but I dip in ketchup just as I would a French fry. I also prefer lard to butter on my bread for grilling. For some reason it doesn’t taste the same if I put the ketchup on the sandwich.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/119 "2025-02-09T13:53:41Z")

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> [@DaveUnknown](#):
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> I like Hunt’s ketchup, despite what “Americas test cooking” shows say.

I’m a Hunt’s fan, too, but I know at least Cooks Illustrated in one of their issues found Hunt’s to be #1 with the tasting panel (this would have been an issue in the late 2000s). I assume one of its spinoff shows has at some point, too. It all depends what you want – you want something “fresh and zippier” give Hunt’s a shot. You want something deeper and more concentrated or cooked down, try Heinz. To me, the difference is almost like preferring a fresh tomato sauce to one that has been simmered down for hours. There’s positive points to both.

I confess, I do enjoy ketchup on my grilled cheese, sometimes, and for that it’s Hunt’s, but even better is some brown sauce like HP or Daddies (slight preference to the former.)

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/120 "2025-02-09T14:01:59Z")

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I generally find ketchup to be vile on most things. But there was a brand in Oregon called, oddly enough, Portland Ketchup. It’s tangy and tasty. The wife is a ketchup fan; I’ve chosen to forgive her.

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