# I Pit "Cafe Society" people

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 8, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051 "2025-02-08T15:52:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/141 "2025-02-09T18:32:10Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> NO ketchup or mustard on grilled cheese! 😱 And NO mayonnaise! Just cheese, bread, and buttered outside.

Well, really! Until I read this thread, I had no idea people put any sort of condiments on grilled cheese. That’s just wrong.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/142 "2025-02-09T18:46:46Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> You don’t make your own sauerkraut??!

The German teacher in my HS was a sour Kraut, so her parents did.

> [@Ellecram](#):
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> I like mayo with my hashbrowns and french fries.

I had involuntary stomach contractions, you know, like hurling when I read this. _::shudder::_

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> If so, the Amish and Mennonites are kinkier than we realized.

Why do you think they have so many kids? W/o Netflix, they just chill

> [@Tibby](#):
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> Indeed, scolding people about which ingredients they do or don’t put on a sandwich is both silly and annoyingly pedantic. That said, Philly cheesesteaks are the lone exception. They must be made according to strict tradition: an authentic Amoroso roll, paper-thin shaved ribeye, **Cooper Sharp cheese** , and fried onions—no substitutions, no frivolous extras. Anyone who dares violate these sacred guidelines should be drawn and quartered, with each quarter exiled to a different corner of the globe for their culinary crime.

Huh? WTF??? I’ve never even _heard_ of one with that on it! Whiz, Provolone or American are the only options they even have at a good steak place…& I prefer mine ‘widout’.

So my only question is can we hang you before we draw & quarter you?

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> ETA: ref @Just_Asking_Questions just below: Ketchup is _perfect_ on grilled cheese. And on patty melts. **Neither sandwich is complete wo ketchup. Lots & lots of ketchup**.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Mustard: obviously the superior condiment, substituting flavor for sweetness and grease. Others have their place, **but every sandwich needs mustard**

**LSLGuy** , you could learn a lot from a Dork

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> What is an Amoroso roll and where do I get one? Ok, googling tells me it’s a brand from Philadelphia. I wonder if it is available in Texas. I will keep looking.

I believe they do ship 'em - [Amoroso’s website](https://Amorososbaking.com)

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> For the same reason we don’t dip the sandwich in Yuengling Lager.

But it can be washed down with a Lager (no “Yeungling” necessary as “Lager” _means_ Yeungling Lager)

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/143 "2025-02-09T18:47:21Z")

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I like ketchup with my grilled cheez sammich.

So there!

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> He has probably sobered up by now.

Probably making himself a sandwich.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/144 "2025-02-09T18:56:14Z")

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Sometimes a slice of tomato on grilled cheese is what I want. Occasionally I’ll dip it in yellow mustard but never ketchup. Ketchup is for fried egg sandwiches, FF, hotdogs and hamburgs, meatloaf and chx nuggets.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/145 "2025-02-09T19:00:33Z")

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This stuff was made in New York City?!!?

[(Cow replies: Animal!!)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJgvmOlKg8)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/146 "2025-02-09T19:04:47Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Well, really! Until I read this thread, I had no idea people put any sort of condiments on grilled cheese. That’s just wrong.

You don’t put condiments in or on a grilled cheese. Or in/on a patty melt for that matter.

You do however dunk the biting edge in a puddle of ketchup. Dunk, bite, dunk, bite, dunk, …

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/147 "2025-02-09T19:09:07Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> People’s reactions are similar too: whatever they grew up eating is normal and the other stuff is weird.

I grew up with MIracle Whip and margarine. 🤮 Haven’t intentionally had either in over 30 years.

> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> This stuff was made in New York City?!!?

Get a rope.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/148 "2025-02-09T19:11:40Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> You don’t put condiments in or on a grilled cheese. Or in/on a patty melt for that matter.

Really? That’s not what this guy said:

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Ketchup is _perfect_ on grilled cheese. And on patty melts. Neither sandwich is complete wo ketchup. Lots & lots of ketchup.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/149 "2025-02-09T19:22:31Z")

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Did you read the next sentence of my 2nd post you quoted first?

The ketchup is for dipping. Which results in it being **on** the sandwich bite going into your face. Not **in** it.

You have a point that I spoke of results the first time, only adding the process details the second time around.

Sorry to confuse, but this isn’t a recipe thread (yet) and I wasn’t being detailed the first time.

Oops on me.

😉

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/150 "2025-02-09T19:43:46Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I’m not someone who has to use the “best” frying pan or the “best” canned tomatoes. But it is nice to hear them in effect skewer the idea of “best” in the first place, and do so very matter-of-factly.

What I like is the commentary like “Most testers preferred a curved handle on saute pans because…”

That’s the sort of thing I might not consider or if I did, I’d just wonder why some were curved and some were straight.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/151 "2025-02-09T19:45:02Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Sorry to confuse, but this isn’t a recipe thread (yet) and I wasn’t being detailed the first time.

No worries. I won’t put ketchup **on** my grilled cheese, nor will I dip my grilled cheese **in** ketchup!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/152 "2025-02-09T19:51:45Z")

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But as **chela** mentioned, a thin slice of tomato or two can set it off nicely.

I dip mine in 1000 Island.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/153 "2025-02-09T19:53:30Z")

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Heresy! Burn them!

[j/k]

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/154 "2025-02-09T19:57:12Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> > [@Railer13](#):
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> > Well, really! Until I read this thread, I had no idea people put any sort of condiments on grilled cheese. That’s just wrong.
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> You don’t put condiments in or on a grilled cheese. Or in/on a patty melt for that matter.
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> You do however dunk the biting edge in a puddle of ketchup. Dunk, bite, dunk, bite, dunk, …

Apparently I had misunderstood you, my dear fellow, although I held back my criticism. I now see that you are, of course, completely correct. I would object to having anything other than cheese and butter on a grilled cheese sandwich, but the ketchup-dipping is, of course, _de rigeuer_!

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**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/155 "2025-02-09T20:16:29Z")

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Okay, back to those reubens for a second…

When I was a kid, I loved reubens, just not with thousand island, so I would ask for them with deli mustard, rather than the spread. Far better sandwich, in my opinion, even if not entirely traditional. These days, I usually order the thousand island on the side in case I want to do a little dipping.

I think it stems from a trip we made one time. While at O’Hare airport, I was hungry and the place we were at had cold, pre-made reubens. There was nobody around to heat it up so I just ate it cold and it was delicious. There was no thousand island, just mustard. To this day, I’ll ocassionally make a cold reuben for nostalgia sake.

And ketchup should never be anywhere near a grilled cheese sandwich. If you want the taste of tomatoes, have the sandwich with tomato soup like God intended.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/156 "2025-02-09T20:22:08Z")

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> [@Disinfectus](#):
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> have the sandwich with tomato soup like God intended.

In this country, God doesn’t get a say.

The Gatsby, an incredibly unhealthy meal of bread, french fries, meat and cheese.

[https://www.reddit.com/r/52weeksofcooking/s/vU1Ud1bFWb](https://www.reddit.com/r/52weeksofcooking/s/vU1Ud1bFWb)

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/157 "2025-02-09T20:22:25Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> > [@LSLGuy](#):
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> > > [@Railer13](#):
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> > > Well, really! Until I read this thread, I had no idea people put any sort of condiments on grilled cheese. That’s just wrong.
> > 
> > You don’t put condiments in or on a grilled cheese. Or in/on a patty melt for that matter.
> > 
> > You do however dunk the biting edge in a puddle of ketchup. Dunk, bite, dunk, bite, dunk, …
> 
> Apparently I had misunderstood you, my dear fellow, although I held back my criticism. I now see that you are, of course, completely correct. I would object to having anything other than cheese and butter on a grilled cheese sandwich, but the ketchup-dipping is, of course, _de rigeuer_!

If you have a bowl of hot tomato soup available, I suppose you can dispense with the ketchup.

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**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/158 "2025-02-09T20:31:26Z")

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Americas Test Kitchen is saturating the airwaves… My PBS station has 5 sub channels, and sometimes that show is on 3 channels at the same time. Their stupid, weak little chuckles and “Oh Julia, that has chocolate”… “oh! sorry about that…teee heee” fake ass banter is just junk.  
Why do they have an audience for those “tasting” segments? “Oh did you get tickets for the ATK frozen broccoli tasting…? No, but I saw the brand they recommended! I can make beef & broccoli w/out criticism now…!”

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/159 "2025-02-09T20:32:26Z")

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I’m choppin broccoli

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-cafe-society-people/1014051/160 "2025-02-09T20:34:45Z")

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> [@DaveUnknown](#):
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> Here’s the thing

So let me get this straight.

You’re just now noticing _some_ television is garbage? Hint, Pal: it’s _all_ garbage. Has been for a very long time. Not sure which rock you’ve been hiding under, but there it is.

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