# I pit CastletonSnob1

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 24, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124 "2021-10-24T23:09:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/101 "2021-10-28T08:45:19Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The hive is abuzz with dissent! 😮

No we’re not!

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/102 "2021-10-28T23:16:04Z")

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We are all individuals!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/103 "2021-10-28T23:18:17Z")

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Well a few aren’t but we usually catch some of them and boot them.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/104 "2021-10-28T23:26:05Z")

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It’s one of the beautiful outcomes of a party beholden to the idea of political and ideological purity tests.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/105 "2021-10-28T23:30:06Z")

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You do realize that is both parties? Right?

How many moderate Republicans has the current Republican Party driven out?

Hell, I’m one. Do you remember the Rockefeller Republicans? They’re extinct now?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/106 "2021-10-28T23:37:13Z")

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Yes. Modern politics and modern communications has resulted in the unfortunate trend of apparent increased polarization. Unfortunately, without a major structural change it’s hard to see a way to reverse that.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/107 "2021-10-28T23:45:21Z")

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I wish I had an optimistic answer to that. I sadly don’t.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/108 "2021-10-28T23:53:13Z")

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So… the fact that that those on the left disagree is proof that they are all a hive mind who never disagree.

OK then.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/109 "2021-10-28T23:59:29Z")

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Those darned liberals are in lockstep about having varied opinions and viewpoints. Hive mind!

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**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/110 "2021-10-29T01:01:19Z")

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I disagree that we are not in agreement.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/111 "2021-10-29T05:10:43Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The hive is abuzz with dissent!

I have read that if a solitary intruder – say a wasp – is found in a honeybee hive, several workers will clamp onto its appendages, immobilizing it, then dozen or so others pile on and rapidly vibrate their wings creating enough heat from their thoracic muscles to cook the intruder to death.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/112 "2021-10-29T07:01:28Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Modern politics and modern communications has resulted in the unfortunate trend of apparent increased polarization.

Yeah, not at _all_ like the all-together-let’s-sing-kumbaya past. **Starving Artist** called, he wants his tired argument back…

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/113 "2021-10-29T12:31:56Z")

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Eh, sort of- it’s only a specific subspecies of bee, Apis cerana japonica- Japanese honey bees, and it’s not against all intruders. Something a similar size to themselves like a wasp, they’d just shred it (if they noticed it at all- often once they get past the guards, the other bees just assume they’re supposed to be there and ignore them), it’s for the giant Asian hornet that they use the balling defence where they cook it, as it’s way bigger than a bee, but its heat tolerance is lower than theirs. See [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNroEwFxh6I) with terribly posh English voiceover.

I actually had one of the guys who dicovered how it worked as a supervisor at uni for a while.

Anyway, after that brief nature interlude, back to the insults.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/114 "2021-10-29T16:35:49Z")

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> [@Filbert](#):
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> Anyway, after that brief nature interlude, back to the insults.

And a delightful interlude it was. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/115 "2021-10-29T16:35:54Z")

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> [@Filbert](#):
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> Eh, sort of- it’s only a specific subspecies of bee, Apis cerana japonica- Japanese honey bees, and it’s not against all intruders.

_A. mellifera_ (honeybees) do use balling to kill off supersedured queens, though.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/116 "2021-10-29T17:04:06Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> > [@Filbert](#):
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> > Anyway, after that brief nature interlude, back to the insults.
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> And a delightful interlude it was. Thank you.

Seconded. The best I’ve ever done is “_Here’s Conway Twitty._”

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Og1QRtcWdEY/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AG-AoAC4AGKAgwIABABGHIgTygsMA8=&rs=AOn4CLCbeZ9-0tIdeut4Us5WGphifOjrWQ "Conway Twitty - Hello Darling") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og1QRtcWdEY)

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/117 "2021-10-29T18:05:37Z")

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They do ball queens sometimes, but I’ve not heard that it’s a heat thing like with hornets, just a mobbing response. Can I ask for cites in the pit? I mean, it could be, I’ve just never seen any research on it and I’m curious now.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/118 "2021-10-29T19:00:17Z")

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So, if I’m understanding this thread correctly, we’re all going to stand next to **CastletobSnob** and have arguments with each other so heated that they’re cooked?

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/119 "2021-10-29T19:26:15Z")

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It is the way.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castletonsnob1/953124/120 "2021-10-29T20:21:39Z")

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How else do _you_ BBQ?

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