# I pit Castro

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 1, 2013, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091 "2013-08-01T16:59:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Girlundone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Girlundone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girlundone)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/41 "2013-08-02T03:49:47Z")

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> And while it may be viscerally satisfying to imagine inflicting pain on the guilty, in real life it really, really fucks most people up when they inflict pain on non consenting individuals.

I thought about this too. I agree. I know I certainly would not be able to actually do those things to him, because I would not able to dehumanized even a psychopath enough to reconcile that. In my scenario, he’s getting it in prison. There is fantasy and there is reality. They are not, nor should they be, the same. I’ve heard it’s common for children who’ve been abused to verbalize elaborate fantasy rescue scenarios where they become superhuman and get the bad guy or kill the bad guy. I think it’s a common coping mechanism.

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**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/42 "2013-08-02T04:04:29Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> So who do we get to torture him? An official government torturer?

Is there some place to volunteer?

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/43 "2013-08-02T05:08:10Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> And while it may be viscerally satisfying to imagine inflicting pain on the guilty, in real life it really, really fucks most people up when they inflict pain on non consenting individuals.

Well, luckily, Castro will surely “consent” to it. “Most” of it, anyway. “100 percent of the time,” come to think of it.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/44 "2013-08-02T12:28:14Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Was I reading correctly that he was actually friends with the family of one of the missing women, and even attended vigils in her honor? It’s un-fucking-real how horrible this story gets.

Yes. One of the women was a friend of his daughter. He kidnapped her under the pretense of giving her a ride to his daughter’s house. She was 14 at the time.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/45 "2013-08-02T14:04:49Z")

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Someday we’ll have TVs that, when you throw a brick at it, will actually allow that brick to hit its intended target.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/46 "2013-08-02T14:17:23Z")

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Here’s a[link](http://lybio.net/tag/read-ariel-castro-speech-full-transcript/) to the full transcript of his statement to the court. He also mentions that the FBI failed these girls because they never questioned him. Unbelievable.

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Because we had a lot of harmony going on in that home. And if you – and if you seen the YouTube video of Amanda this weekend, that right there itself proves that that girl did not go through no torture. That woman did not go through torture. Because if that was true, do you think she would be out there partying already and having fun? I don’t think so.

I seen Gina, and in the media, she looks normal. She acts normal. A person that’s been tortured just does not act normal. They would like act withdrawn and everything.

On the contrary, they’re the opposite. She’s happy. The victims are happy. I haven’t seen much of Michelle because Michelle, since Day-One, no one missed her. I never saw any flyers about her.

Uh, I feel that the FBI let these girls down because when they – when they uh, when they – when they questioned, they questioned my daughter, that’s OK, but they failed to question me. I’m her father.

If they would have questioned me, you know, to you know, (inaudible) was missing or whatever it happened (inaudible), it’s possible that it would have ended right there. So.  
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/47 "2013-08-02T14:27:54Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Inmates are sent to prison as punishment, not to be punished. Most state prison systems strongly discourage inmate on inmate violence these days. Some still happens, but I expect Castro will not get murdered in prison. While Dahmer may have bought it in my state system, we do have a lot of other notorious guys who have survived inside for decades.
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> And while it may be viscerally satisfying to imagine inflicting pain on the guilty, in real life it really, really fucks most people up when they inflict pain on non consenting individuals.
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> Justice will be served by isolating Castro from the public for the rest of his life.

You obviously have more experience with prisons than me. But that has been my understanding as well. The prison justice meme comes mostly from Hollywood and not reality. The truth is that prisons are not filled with civic minded people looking to hand out justice. They mostly don’t care what you did on the outside as long as it didn’t involve a rival gang. Most of the violence that happens in prison is because of stuff that happens in prison. And prison personnel dont look the other way. Correct me if I’m wrong but Dahmer’s murder seems to be more about his killer’s schizophrenia than anything else.

I don’t know about Ohio but we have a separate state prison for sex offenders. That has much more to do with attempts at treatment than worries about prison justice.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/48 "2013-08-02T14:46:12Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Someday we’ll have TVs that, when you throw a brick at it, will actually allow that brick to hit its intended target.

I wouldn’t know. I don’t even _own_ a brick.

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**Author:** ![Razncain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@Razncain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razncain)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/49 "2013-08-02T15:10:19Z")

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I personally do not want them to kill him, but fuck him up enough to where he thinks is going to get killed. Take him to the point to where he wants to kill himself, but don’t give him the satisfaction of letting him carry it out. Nurse him back to health, then beat his ass again. Repeat forever.

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**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/50 "2013-08-02T15:20:01Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I wouldn’t know. I don’t even _own_ a brick.

I see what you did there.

And reading that transcript, I can’t see how it wouldn’t be a good idea to torture that monster. Jeebus.

ETA: Also, I agree with the above poster. That sounds like a good plan to me.

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**Author:** ![Fiveroptic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiveroptic/32/8257_2.png) [@Fiveroptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveroptic)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/51 "2013-08-02T15:27:53Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> He also said much of the sex was “consensual.” I can believe that too – you lock a woman in a room with nothing to do for years, her turn in the rotation eventually becomes the only thing she has to look forward to to relieve the boredom. That doesn’t mean she would not rather be practically anywhere else on Earth.

Jesus Christ, do you seriously think this way? You think those women looked forward to being raped because they were bored? They didn’t fight because they knew it was pointless and fighting only made it more miserable. You think they “looked forward to it”?

You’re pretty fucked up.

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**Author:** ![Minnie\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Minnie\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minnie_Luna)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/52 "2013-08-02T15:50:30Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> I heard on the radio Castro testified that there was “harmony” in his house. Well, I can believe **that!** If you have absolute power of life and death over everybody who lives with you, there won’t be much quarrelling! He also said much of the sex was “consensual.” I can believe that too – you lock a woman in a room with nothing to do for years, her turn in the rotation eventually becomes the only thing she has to look forward to to relieve the boredom. That doesn’t mean she would not rather be practically anywhere else on Earth.

He probably thought the sex was consensual because they just didn’t fight him anymore. There is no way in hell that any sexual contact between a prisoner and her kidnapper is consensual. You think they looked forward to that asshole groping them with his sweaty paws?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/53 "2013-09-04T04:21:50Z")

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[He’s dead.](http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/09/04/Pickaway_Castro_Death.html)

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/54 "2013-09-04T04:31:57Z")

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Good.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/55 "2013-09-04T04:56:07Z")

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So, I guess now he can begin serving the 1,000 years portion of his sentence.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/56 "2013-09-04T05:02:50Z")

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I guess the only question is, did he do it himself, or did he have help?

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/57 "2013-09-04T05:26:24Z")

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They didn’t have him in gen pop so, unless you think a guard did it, he probably did it to himself.

Coward.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/58 "2013-09-04T05:38:11Z")

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Good fucking riddance.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/59 "2013-09-04T08:20:16Z")

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I think we should thank him. Now the state doesn’t have to support him for the rest of his life. He was only 53, so that could have been quite a few years.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-castro/665091/60 "2013-09-04T09:55:16Z")

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He kept 3 women prisoner for 10 years and he couldn’t stand being held prisoner for a few months?  
What a God damned son of a bitch. :mad:  
Rot in Hell you bastard! :mad:

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