# I pit Chicago for NOT salting! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659 "2008-12-11T02:05:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Rascal\_s\_Mom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Rascal\_s\_Mom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rascal_s_Mom)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/61 "2008-12-14T17:22:46Z")
> [@Captain\_C](#): > > Anybody else get the feeling that the posters saying that it was the OP’s fault probably don’t live where this would even be a concern? One is even from New Mexico for crying out loud. New Mexico residents do not get to comment on how to drive on ice. I’m going to trust the guy from Wisconsin. Thank you. That was my point back in post #41 when I asked **Knorf** , where he lived. Who, incidentally, has not responded. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/62 "2008-12-14T18:49:05Z")
Calling all Yoopers, Cheeseheads, and Vikings – we need your snow here in Thunder Bay. I’m posting from the ski hill, where we have been sitting on the edge of a winter storm since Friday. It is snowing, but not nearly enough. So help reduce your own snow accumulation problems by blowing the storm my way. At 2:00 p.m., please all step outside and blow as strongly as you can in my direction. Please repeat this every fifteen minutes until you have blown all your troubles away. Remember, the people who blow together . . . well, err, ah . . . look, just get out there and start blowing, will ya. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/63 "2008-12-14T19:35:04Z")
C’mon folks! If we get enough Dopers together, we can give \*\*Muffin \*\*the best blow job ever! Uh… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/64 "2008-12-14T19:41:02Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > C’mon folks! If we get enough Dopers together, we can give \*\*Muffin \*\*the best blow job ever! > > Uh… That white stuff stains you know. ---
**Author:** ![OhFace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecccb3/32.png) [@OhFace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OhFace)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/65 "2008-12-14T19:58:32Z")
Interesting hijack! :eek: (that’s the closest there is to a “blow” face, lol) ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/66 "2008-12-14T23:22:25Z")
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thanks to your collective blow job, I had some great face shots this afternoon. By a little after 3:00 p.m., the winter storm rolled in. The visibility was poor (here’s a shot: [http://my.tbaytel.net/culpeperlaw/IMG00047.jpg](http://my.tbaytel.net/culpeperlaw/IMG00047.jpg) ), but the sudden dump was greatly appreciated. Thanks you wonderful powder pervs! ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/67 "2008-12-14T23:37:22Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thanks to your collective blow job, I had some great face shots this afternoon. By a little after 3:00 p.m., the winter storm rolled in. The visibility was poor (here’s a shot: [http://my.tbaytel.net/culpeperlaw/IMG00047.jpg](http://my.tbaytel.net/culpeperlaw/IMG00047.jpg) ), but the sudden dump was greatly appreciated. > > Thanks you wonderful powder pervs! Cool! You got a shot of Bigfoot. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/68 "2008-12-15T00:11:06Z")
The salt budget probably went for someones attempt at a Senate bid. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/69 "2008-12-15T03:05:30Z")
> [@Captain\_C](#): > > Anybody else get the feeling that the posters saying that it was the OP’s fault probably don’t live where this would even be a concern? One is even from New Mexico for crying out loud. New Mexico residents do not get to comment on how to drive on ice. I’m going to trust the guy from Wisconsin. Our climate is a lot different than you think it is. I live at 7,000 feet. I can see a ski resort from my house. I’ve lived within twenty minutes of a mountain my whole life. I was hit by a car while walking home from downtown last year because the plows had piled the sidewalks with four feet of snow. I’ve been in several wrecks that wouldn’t have happened had the traction been better. They were all my fault. ---
**Author:** ![Bartman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@Bartman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bartman)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/70 "2008-12-15T03:50:25Z")
> [@Captain\_C](#): > > Anybody else get the feeling that the posters saying that it was the OP’s fault probably don’t live where this would even be a concern? One is even from New Mexico for crying out loud. New Mexico residents do not get to comment on how to drive on ice. I’m going to trust the guy from Wisconsin. Chicago - average annual snowfall is 39" Santa Fe (downtown) - average annual snowfall is 32" Santa Fe Ski Resort, (about 20 minutes from downtown) - average annual snowfall is 225" (at the base) I think you may want to pay _some_ attention to the advice of the guy who, depending on where in the burbs he lives, sees at about as much snow as Chicago and may see up to five times what Chicago sees. That’s just a thought though. ---
**Author:** ![Rascal\_s\_Mom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Rascal\_s\_Mom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rascal_s_Mom)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/71 "2008-12-15T14:03:31Z")
> [@Bartman](#): > > Chicago - average annual snowfall is 39" > Santa Fe (downtown) - average annual snowfall is 32" > Santa Fe Ski Resort, (about 20 minutes from downtown) - average annual snowfall is 225" (at the base) > > I think you may want to pay _some_ attention to the advice of the guy who, depending on where in the burbs he lives, sees at about as much snow as Chicago and may see up to five times what Chicago sees. That’s just a thought though. Do you have to drive THROUGH the snow to get to where you need to go? If the snow is limited to a mountain resort, that isn’t a fair comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/72 "2008-12-15T14:45:18Z")
> [@Rascal\_s\_Mom](#): > > Do you have to drive THROUGH the snow to get to where you need to go? If the snow is limited to a mountain resort, that isn’t a fair comparison. I couldn’t drive faster than 15mph on my way through town today; my traction control wouldn’t let me. It took half an hour longer to get to work than it does when the weather is good. We’re expecting 6-10" today. ---
**Author:** ![Rascal\_s\_Mom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Rascal\_s\_Mom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rascal_s_Mom)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/73 "2008-12-15T15:24:02Z")
Well I think Wisconsin, at least my neck o’the woods, has decided to dabble in all extremes in the shortest time possible. We had a ton of snow last Tuesday, 40’s over the weekend (temp didn’t start dropping until early yesterday evening), and sub-zero windchills today. Some snow is expected tomorrow. I hope **Harmonious Discord** can have a couple days of rest. For now our roads are clear except where there was melting yesterday/freezing last night. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/74 "2008-12-15T15:35:58Z")
Wow, it snow/iced everywhere last night and the roads were damned near luge chutes today on the way to work. I didn’t see a single plow/salt truck on my whole 20 mile drive into work either. ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/75 "2008-12-15T15:42:35Z")
It’s worse than that. We had temps in the low 50’s followed by a fast drop to well below freezing. There’s a fine layer of ice on everything. I’m sitting here letting my car warm up; I can barely scrape the ice off it. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/76 "2008-12-15T15:46:18Z")
> [@MikeG](#): > > It’s worse than that. We had temps in the low 50’s followed by a fast drop to well below freezing. There’s a fine layer of ice on everything. I’m sitting here letting my car warm up; I can barely scrape the ice off it. People I work with who don’t have a garage said that they had to basically resort to chisels and blow torches to get into the car this morning. There was such a nice layer of ice on my garage door that when it went up this morning it sounded like a timber snapping in half and the carrier disengaged from the track twice before I could get it open. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/77 "2008-12-15T16:27:20Z")
> [@Rascal\_s\_Mom](#): > > Do you have to drive THROUGH the snow to get to where you need to go? If the snow is limited to a mountain resort, that isn’t a fair comparison. Right. And, not all snowfall is the same snowfall (first person to mention Eskimo vocabulary gets a snowball to the mouth!). Chicago snowfall is particularly wet and intermittent, with lots of freezing and warming cycles, which leads to a whole lot of slippery slush and ice, not pristine flaky stuff. If the darn stuff would just stay white and frozen, we wouldn’t have a problem with it. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/78 "2008-12-15T16:39:39Z")
What makes you think it’s not like that here? ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/79 "2008-12-15T16:53:16Z")
It was 44F yesterday an we had some rain. During the night it went to 1F. Where the snow lined the streets the water didn’t run off so there are sheets of ice on the road. My most hated spot in Portage has about 50 feet of ice across the road and no sand. The city still has the fire hydrants and sidewalks buried too. They go after home owners to clear the stuff, but they don’t do their own properties. ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659/80 "2008-12-15T16:56:48Z")
Southwest Santa Fe, Santa Fe, New Mexico (PWS) Updated: 1 sec ago 23.3 °F / -4.8 °C Light Snow Mist Windchill: 23 °F / -5 °C Humidity: 86% Dew Point: 20 °F / -7 °C Wind: 4.0 mph / 6 km/hfrom the SSE Wind Gust: 9.0 mph / 14 km/h Pressure: 30.32 in / 1026.6 hPa (Steady) Visibility: 0.8 miles / 1.2 kilometers Elevation: 6634 ft / 2022 m Looks wet and cold to me. Ingnorance fought! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-chicago-for-not-salting/476659.md?page=5)