# I pit Crafter Man-In regards to Ted Kennedy's Death **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 26, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804 "2009-08-26T19:02:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/41 "2009-08-26T20:39:46Z")
At least he killed that Mary Jo Kopechne bitch. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/42 "2009-08-26T20:46:21Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Dead. So is his other one. _To the tune of “The Irish Washer Woman”_ McTavish is dead and his brother don’t know it, His brother is dead and McTavish don’t know it, They’re both of them dead and they’re in the same bed, But neither one knows that the other one’s dead. Thank you, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/43 "2009-08-26T20:48:53Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > At least he killed that Mary Jo Kopechne bitch. Hey now. What if the children she didn’t have would have been reading this? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/44 "2009-08-26T20:49:01Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > At least he killed that Mary Jo Kopechne bitch. Gosh, I missed you. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/45 "2009-08-26T20:51:50Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Dead. So is his other one. And don’t forget the other one. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/46 "2009-08-26T21:07:25Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > How do _you_ know how effective **Crafter\_Man** is at his job, huh? Well, you don’t see any socialists around, do you? Scared off, I presume. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/47 "2009-08-26T21:15:25Z")
That’s why I always carry my magic socialist-repelling rock. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/48 "2009-08-26T21:16:23Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Why don’t you share some of his important legislation with us? Ones he was noted as writing or being a major contributor to: Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 National Cancer Act of 1971 Federal Election Campaign Act Amendments of 1974 COBRA Act of 1985 Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986 Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 Ryan White AIDS Care Act in 1990 Civil Rights Act of 1991 National and Community Service Trust Act of 1993 Mental Health Parity Act in 1996 and 2008 Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act in 1996 State Children’s Health Insurance Program in 1997 Air Transportation Safety and System Stabilization Act 2001 No Child Left Behind Act in 2002 Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act 2003 Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act in 2009 ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/49 "2009-08-26T21:18:11Z")
> [@jakesteele](#): > > Rush … Michael Moore and Ann Coulter In a threeway. ---
**Author:** ![drpepper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@drpepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drpepper)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/50 "2009-08-26T21:20:40Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > Even in the Pit, let’s try to remember the positives. > > Ted Kennedy’s life was about a driving need to cross bridges to make connections. It was about plunging deeply into the river of experience and leaving the dead weight behind. It was about drinking in fully the heady brew of politics, speeding widly into the hurly-burly without a care, taking some hard knocks, picking oneself up and heading into the twilight with no regrets and without looking back. Sure Ted was a big spender, but he had a big heart, and he knew you can’t get anything worthwhile done without spending a few Kopechs. Who knows - he might have been President, if only he had hit the breaks. > 😉 Winner winner chicken dinner. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/51 "2009-08-26T21:46:59Z")
> [@Maeglin](#): > > The same can be said of Strom Thurmond. Actually, no, it can’t. Thurmond and Kennedy did not have the same sort of Senate careers at all. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/52 "2009-08-26T21:52:42Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Well, you don’t see any socialists around, do you? Well, no. Without my special sunglasses, they just look like ordinary people. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotGrrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@PatriotGrrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotGrrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/53 "2009-08-26T22:01:41Z")
I just want to say that I would have posted that about most politicians I disagreed with. It’s nothing personal. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/54 "2009-08-26T22:33:01Z")
I honeslty can’t say a single good thing about Ted Kennedy. Um, who is he again? I gather he was a politician, and that he’s dead, but neither of those are necessarily _good_ things… ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/55 "2009-08-26T22:33:56Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Ones he was noted as writing or being a major contributor to: > > [list of bills] Well, it’s possible that **Crafter\_Man** thinks that those are bad bills or shouldn’t have been passed. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/56 "2009-08-26T22:43:57Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Hey now. What if the children she didn’t have would have been reading this? Fuck those kids. The eggs went down with the ship. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/57 "2009-08-26T22:51:58Z")
That’s all you’ve got? Surely the OP can find a quote of mine that is more pit-worthy. > [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Well, it’s possible that **Crafter\_Man** thinks that those are bad bills or shouldn’t have been passed. Yes. Very possible. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/58 "2009-08-26T22:56:32Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Well, no. Without my special sunglasses, they just look like ordinary people. Yeah, but put them back on … formaldehyde face!!! 🆒 I do wish some folks would stop with the Mary Jo comments, because they come across as absurdly disingenuous. Not that I don’t think you’re wholly unsympathetic to her death, but its vilification has a ring of hat-hanging. Take a look at the Strom or Novak threads… plenty of vitriol for their works and politics. This seems like such a convenient excuse for hate. As for the pitting, it’s kind of poor. We have death-dancing threads all the time about conservatives, and while the _what’s wrong with you_ is usually brought up in-thread, I’m pretty sure most OPs and dance partners don’t get pitted for it. **Challenge** : Name a long-term, iconic conservative whose death would warrant the better-than-usual treatment Kennedy has gotten. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/59 "2009-08-26T22:57:43Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Fuck those kids. The eggs went down with the ship. That’s happening with more and more these days, no? ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804/60 "2009-08-26T23:11:54Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > Even in the Pit, let’s try to remember the positives. > > Ted Kennedy’s life was about a driving need to cross bridges to make connections. It was about plunging deeply into the river of experience and leaving the dead weight behind. It was about drinking in fully the heady brew of politics, speeding widly into the hurly-burly without a care, taking some hard knocks, picking oneself up and heading into the twilight with no regrets and without looking back. Sure Ted was a big spender, but he had a big heart, and he knew you can’t get anything worthwhile done without spending a few Kopechs. Who knows - he might have been President, if only he had hit the breaks. > 😉 > [@Maeglin](#): > > Please tell me that took you at least 30 minutes to compose. 🙂 Nah. Cut and paste don’t take that long. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-crafter-man-in-regards-to-ted-kennedys-death/507804.md?page=4)