# I pit Craigslist scammers!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 2, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729 "2009-04-02T16:48:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/61 "2009-04-04T14:14:03Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> Yawn. I’m sorry you are married to one of these people and that you are **SOoooooOO** offended on her behalf.

Dude it’s his wife. Of course he’s going to be offended. Wouldn’t you be offended if I wrote a post about how people like your wife/mom/sister are usually VD infested crackwhores?

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> The worst ones, IMO, are the ones who are typical nerds and get into those sickeningly sweet clingy relationships, while telling everyone how sexually daring and progressive they are, and standing up against the evils of conformist sorority slut cheerleaders who probably have eating disorders and/or VD or both, because they are not slightly chubby and plain like the nrrdgrrls usually are.

A large chunk of that reminds me of my first real relationship. It was majorly sickeningly sweet. We did tell everyone how sexually adventurous we were. Except you got one thing blatenly wrong.

She was a normal girl. Knew nada about scifi, RPG, gaming, and the like. Well she was English, as in UK passport but meh. Still normal just had a different vocabulary and had some different recipes.

You see us geeks are just that lovable, and sex is only dirty if you think it is. Which I don’t which lead to some wild stuff. She used to get made at me for going to far in public though. Good times. I used to see what I could get away with. I also used to write her poems. And break all the rules about maintain social status.

It was a time of freedom. I trusted her implicitly, as she did me, but we were too incompatible in some important ways and it built up causing too much stress and we couldn’t figure out how to deal with it. In hindsight it happened too fast; if it happened slower we could have dealt with those problems. We tried again a year later, going slower but the past bites you in the ass and that was that.

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> They will then return home to their de rigueur nerd hobby like falconry

Why the falconry hate? Have you ever seen a falcon? Those things are awesome.

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> The problem is that female nerd types of the gamer persuasion have the magical power of pussy and they know it, and being around nerdy types like the OP all the time have come to expect that this attention to their every move is due them naturally, and woe to He Who Does Not Fawn.

Ahh now all this clicks. Some guys get girl, geek or otherwise (especially geek) by not fawning and just being themselves. If that doesn’t work for you I could certainly see why it’d cause some bitter feelings.

I’ve got a D&D girl who sets next to me in my Excel class acting all awkward and fawning like you ascribe to geek guys. I’m gonna try asking her out next tuesday.

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> So, let me just cut off the furious post that you are now typing with enough force to splinter your keys into little shards of thermoplastic.

Did you mean molten plastic? Thermoplastic = plastic you can melt and remold, such as pop bottle plastic at room temperature.

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> You can meet some nice gamer lass at the D&D game, hook up, and get REALLY involved and probably married and have a nice Klingon wedding, grow your hair out, join the SCA, and embark on your life collecting homemade medieval weapons together.

I don’t know what the SCA is but the rest of that sounds like 100% nuclear enriched awesome.

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> Or not. Get some friends to help you meet a girl, go to the bar, grow a set, pay for a hooker and quit making such a big deal of it. Either way, I don’t care.

That’s some good advice. OP listen to this. Well not the hooker part, unless you want it burn when you pee, but the rest yea.

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> I’m not here to validate your life choices, nor are you here to validate mine. We’re not in a mutual cheerleading society. If I’m an asshole because I don’t like the vast majority of girls who play D&D, so be it. You probably hate Republicans and Fundies, and are proud of it. So I guess in the end we’re not so different, you and I.

Geeks  
erds are like republicans eh?:mad: Well your wife/mom/sister is like a VD infested crackwhore.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/62 "2009-04-04T16:49:02Z")

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**ivn1188** , projecting much?

I mean, I don’t need to speculate about you at all to know you’re an asshole, so why accuse me of speculating about you?

In a world where Ben Affleck, Vin Diesel, and Glen fucking Danzig are D&D players, I just think the stigma you’re trying to apply is pretty solidly based in bad television and perhaps memories of the gamer-store types. Nothing wrong with 'em, but perhaps you have missed the part where there are people who go to a game once a week or so like you watch sports or watch American Idol or ride your Harley or whatever the fuck it is you do with your waste of a life, and just like in all those activities I mentioned, there are people who do it as a hobby and there are people who live it all scary-like.

Frankly, what this has to do with the OP I don’t know, aside from “you’re probably better off sleeping with someone who shares at least one of your hobbies”. Now I’m going to have to read the thread to figure out how the fuck we got on this tangent in the first place.

I did think of another venue for getting laid pretty easily, though. Some of my easiest pickups have been in the pit at metal/hard rock/punk shows–you’re already touching, chances are if you’re not a complete douche you can start chatting to the chick you just bumped into and have her hand down your pants by the end of the night. Ideally you want the kind of bar/music club that’s standing/floor space only, preferably a smaller venue that gets midrange national acts (anyone from central PA of a certain age and musical preference will remember the Crowbar in State College as the exemplar of what I’m talking about here.) but is still small enough to feel intimate.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/63 "2009-04-04T16:51:10Z")

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Ben Affleck, Vin Diesel and Glen Danzig?

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/64 "2009-04-04T17:05:42Z")

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[Vin Diesel](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQUEQOyIvfk)

Kevin Smith, at least, has claimed Ben Affleck and Matt Damon both played with him on the set of some of his movies.

Wil Wheaton has supposedly said that he was close to getting a celebrity D&D show on G4 TV and Glen Danzig was going to be one of the first guests.

Mostly I was just naming non-geek names that I had heard of off the top of my head. It’s one of those things where I just chuckle thinking of someone trying to make a case that Vin Diesel is a chubby basement nerd in any meaningful way.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/65 "2009-04-04T17:41:29Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Actually, yes, we do. And we suspend or ban people for it. And it’s not like we actually trace the Yahoo address. We track down by other means, means that I cannot speak of.

They turn it over to Zoe.

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**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/66 "2009-04-04T19:01:42Z")

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If you want to meet a girl you really connect with and like, get a hobby or do some volunteer work. Not something you do just to meet chicks, but something you really enjoy.

I am one of 4 sisters who are all happily married.

I met my husband while inter-tubing down a river on a hot summer day. Our tubes drifted by each other and we started chatting.

My older sister met her husband while they were both members of a book club.

My younger sister met her husband while they both were going to art exhibits. They had seen each other at art exhibits several times and started a conversation about art.

The very youngest sister met her husband while they were both volunteers at an animal shelter.  
What these all have in common is that in all cases people were living happy busy lives when they met their future mates. They weren’t waiting at home, staring at a computer screen, desperately look for a lay. They were having fun, pursuing their passions, and having a nice life.

THAT is the way to meet girls. It won’t happen right away, but get busy, and it will happen.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/67 "2009-04-04T20:19:29Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Misc Romance or just regular Women Seeking Men are your best bets.

Yeah, if you like women who are “full-figured”, “a real woman”, “a few extra pounds”, “Rubenesque”, “zaftig”, “curvy”, blah blah blah …

Well, at least around me, anyhow. Most of the CL WSM ads are from big girls.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/68 "2009-04-04T21:21:16Z")

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And fat girls never want to be looked down upon, except in their profile picture.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/69 "2009-04-04T21:57:06Z")

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> [@elmwood](#):
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> Yeah, if you like women who are “full-figured”, “a real woman”, “a few extra pounds”, “Rubenesque”, “zaftig”, “curvy”, blah blah blah …
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> Well, at least around me, anyhow. Most of the CL WSM ads are from big girls.

Not in my experience. Obviously not everyone on the California coast is a fitness model but there is still a world of difference between here and the middle of the country.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/70 "2009-04-04T21:57:41Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> Dude it’s his wife. Of course he’s going to be offended. Wouldn’t you be offended if I wrote a post about how people like your wife/mom/sister are usually VD infested crackwhores?

No.

> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> Geeks  
> erds are like republicans eh?:mad: Well your wife/mom/sister is like a VD infested crackwhore.

Angry! Oh wait, still no. But I liked your post, and I found [this](http://www2.b3ta.com/mirror/klingonwedding/) for your delectation.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/71 "2009-04-05T02:31:30Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> No.
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> Angry! Oh wait, still no. But I liked your post, and I found [this](http://www2.b3ta.com/mirror/klingonwedding/) for your delectation.

Thanks yo. That looked like a really fun couple.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-craigslist-scammers/491729/72 "2009-04-09T18:55:46Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Edited to add, WAY too late (Women, please ignore this post): **Blalron** , have you ALWAYS been this big a loser? Cuz, IRL, NO GUY would admit to it, especially in front of people who (formerly) liked and respected you.

Loser is a very relative term. I can always take comfort in the fact that there are people even worse off than I am. 😉 I once made out with a woman at a party. Some people don’t even have that. I had no idea people here respected me, that’s new to me. 😛

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