# I Pit Daily Kos and the Shameful, Disgraceful Lies About The Republican Platform **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 13, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860 "2016-07-13T23:28:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/1 "2016-07-13T23:28:20Z")
Un-fucking-credible! > **[The Republican platform hates gays, puts women back in the kitchen, and...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/13/1547874/-The-Republican-platform-hates-gays-puts-women-back-in-the-kitchen-and-insists-on-religious-law)** > > Over the last week, as the Republican platform committee added planks to their ever growing platform a pattern established itself. Again and again, libertarian forces in the party raised objections to the parts of the platform that... The sheer wretchedness of the mendacity! Behold! > [@](#): > > …Republicans moved on Tuesday toward adopting a staunchly conservative platform that takes a strict, traditionalist view of the family and child rearing, bars military women from combat, describes coal as a “clean” energy source and declares pornography a “public health crisis.”… This is bad enough, but still retains dignity, it is not impossible that this would be part of the 2016 Republican platform. Might even be, though not so likely now that the Party is pivoting to the center. But the Kossacks are just warming up! Wait till you see this! > [@](#): > > …The platform demands that lawmakers use religion as a guide when legislating, stipulating “that man-made law must be consistent with God-given, natural rights.” > > It also encourages the teaching of the Bible in public schools because, the amendment said, a good understanding of its contents is “indispensable for the development of an educated citizenry.”… Ridiculous on the face of it, what reasoning American would buy such a load of crap! That a modern, educated and intelligent American party would offer _that_ as a platform? But wait, there’s more, if you order today… > [@](#): > > …Restricting bathroom access for transgender Americans? It’s in the Republican platform. “Conversion therapy” for parents who want to “cure” their gay children? It’s in the Republican platform… _Ecce Homo!_ Tsk, tsk, Markos! Things are bad enough without making shit up! I feel a strong urge to apologise for the slanderous fabrications of a lefty newsite. And certainly would if I had more time… ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/2 "2016-07-13T23:46:24Z")
I used to read Daily Kos every day, but the opinionating got to me. However, in doing a little research on what you said (not that I disbelieve you, just checking for myself) I find that the NY Times says it as well when I googled the phrase “that man-made law must be consistent with God-given, natural rights.” [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/us/politics/republican-convention-issues.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/us/politics/republican-convention-issues.html?_r=0) > [@](#): > > CLEVELAND — Republicans moved on Tuesday toward adopting a staunchly conservative platform that takes a strict, traditionalist view of the family and child rearing, bars military women from combat, describes coal as a “clean” energy source and declares pornography a “public health crisis.” Then I looked up the GOP’s platform: > **[About Our Party | GOP](https://gop.com/about-our-party/)** > > Learn about the Republican Party’s platform. I guess it’s mostly dog whistles, because it’s certainly not overtly inflammatory. But we do find: > [@](#): > > Preserving and Protecting Traditional Marriage > > We recognize and honor the courageous efforts of those who bear the many burdens of parenting alone, even as we believe that marriage, the union of one man and one woman must be upheld as the national standard, a goal to stand for, encourage, and promote through laws governing marriage > > Making the Internet Family-Friendly > Current laws on all forms of pornography and obscenity need to be vigorously enforced. Then there’s this: > [@](#): > > Consumer Choice in Education > > The Republican Party is the party of fresh and innovative ideas in education. I think I may have stumbled on a parody site with the URL gop dot com. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/3 "2016-07-14T00:35:46Z")
> [@Leo\_Krupe](#): > > Then I looked up the GOP’s platform: > [About Our Party | GOP](https://www.gop.com/platform/renewing-american-values/) > > I guess it’s mostly dog whistles, because it’s certainly not overtly inflammatory. But we do find: > Then there’s this: > I think I may have stumbled on a parody site with the URL gop dot com. That is the 2012 platform…pre-Trump. I think there was only a draft of the 2016 platform so far but it was very wacko and is much further to the right. Not that I am a fan of the Daily Kos…it is the Lefts version of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity… ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/4 "2016-07-14T00:44:59Z")
NYT is telling [the same defamatory stuff.](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/us/politics/republican-convention-issues.html?_r=0) > [@](#): > > The platform demands that lawmakers use religion as a guide when legislating, stipulating “that man-made law must be consistent with God-given, natural rights.” > > It also encourages the teaching of the Bible in public schools because, the amendment said, a good understanding of its contents is “indispensable for the development of an educated citizenry.” > … > > But nearly every provision that expressed disapproval of homosexuality, same-sex marriage or transgender rights passed. The platform calls for overturning the Supreme Court marriage decision with a constitutional amendment and makes references to appointing judges “who respect traditional family values.” > … > > Additional provisions included those that promoted state laws to limit which restrooms transgender people could use, nodded to “conversion therapy” for gays by saying that parents should be free to make medical decisions about their children without interference and stated that “natural marriage” between a man and a woman is most likely to result in offspring who do not become drug-addicted or otherwise damaged. None of that is actually a surprise, I trust. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/5 "2016-07-14T00:47:58Z")
> [@rat\_avatar](#): > > That is the 2012 platform…pre-Trump. I think there was only a draft of the 2016 platform so far but it was very wacko and is much further to the right. Not that I am a fan of the Daily Kos…it is the Lefts version of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity… Yeah, that link is from 2012. The 2016 is still being drafted. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/6 "2016-07-14T00:48:24Z")
> [@](#): > > …it is the Lefts version of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity… An important point, there. We have to keep in mind that both sides do it. For sure, Mark Shields, Rush Limbaugh, not very much difference, really. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/7 "2016-07-14T00:52:21Z")
Gosh, **Elvish** , a couple of those quotes are identical to the one’s in my post! The _Times_, you say? When did they start quoting _Daily Kos_? This thing goes deeper than it appears… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/8 "2016-07-14T00:59:42Z")
There’s apparently been a significant shift in the Republican position on gay marriage. In 2012, they were still trying to address it on a national level with a ban. They’ve now realized they’re not going to succeed on banning gay marriage in Congress. So the Republicans have reversed themselves and are now declaring gay marriage is a state issue and that every state should be able to set its own policy on gay marriage. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/9 "2016-07-14T01:06:24Z")
Verified wacko platform stances in Tuesday’s Draft. > [@](#): > > Pornography, with its harmful effects, especially on children, has become a public health crisis that is destroying the life of millions. We encourage states to continue to fight this public menace and pledge our commitment to children’s safety and well-being. > [@](#): > > Children raised in a traditional two-parent household tend to be physically and emotionally healthier, less likely to use drugs and alcohol, engage in crime, or become pregnant outside of marriage Gay conversion therapy support was watered down to: > [@](#): > > We support the right of parents to determine the proper treatment or therapy, for their minor children They are officially calling coal: > [@](#): > > an abundant, **clean** , affordable, reliable domestic energy resource They are also calling for “special scrutiny” of people from islamic countries…this centuries version of the “China exclusion act” which is more correctly just called bigotry. We will see what they actually pass next week but I retract my criticism of the Daily Kos, this time. I turn around and pit the OP for ignoring the fact that their party has been taken over by extremist bigots whom want to destroy our freedoms of religion and association. The best thing I can say about the GOP is that they are dying off…if only it would happen sooner. The GOP in un-american in thought and in action. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/10 "2016-07-14T01:09:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > An important point, there. We have to keep in mind that both sides do it. For sure, Mark Shields, Rush Limbaugh, not very much difference, really. While each side may have political pundits, the Democrats are not calling for legalized phycological torture (conversion therapy) Destruction of the separation of church and state and the freedom of religion (bible classes in school) or selling off public lands to privileged ranchers. So they are not so equally evil. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/11 "2016-07-14T01:25:52Z")
Also, it’s not like the bible is even banned in public schools when necessary. I remember several times in my US and European history classes where the Bible was read. I recall one time in particular when the instructor read a lengthy passage from Job to give us context for an argument someone was making at that point in history (as the argument directly referenced Job). In addition, world religion classes aren’t particularly common, but are floating around, and frequently involve reading pieces of scripture including the Bible. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/12 "2016-07-14T01:57:31Z")
They wanted to teach it as history but we’re unable to. > [@](#): > > Perkins responded that the term “literature” was deliberately chosen because some schools teaching the Bible as literature had already been challenged in court, where the courts sided with the school. So to avoid reinventing the wheel and potentially forcing new litigation, teaching the Bible as literature would enjoy some protection under current court precedent in some parts of the country. No details oh what version of the Bible become the official state religion. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/13 "2016-07-14T02:36:48Z")
> [@rat\_avatar](#): > > …I turn around and pit the OP for … Deeply ashamed. I go now to the nearest river, to perform the Ancient Tasmanian Ritual of Self-Abasement, accompanied by a Chorus of bitter virgins, intoning dirges of woe and humiliation. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/14 "2016-07-14T02:44:10Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Yeah, that link is from 2012. The 2016 is still being drafted. When checking the platform, I noticed it was 2012, not 2016. Then I said to hell with it, because somewhere I read they’ll finalize the 2016 version at the convention, so the 2012 is the latest authoritative version I could find. All that said in my defense. Which, when combined with $4.75, might get you a small latte. Now, after seeing the subsequent posts, I see the GOP contains 50% more crazy under Reince than before! ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/15 "2016-07-14T03:44:01Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > An important point, there. We have to keep in mind that both sides do it. For sure, Mark Shields, Rush Limbaugh, not very much difference, really. I can barely turn on the radio without hearing E. J. Dionne or Robert Reich barking their leftist talking points at me. Hours and hours a day, those bastards are churning out propaganda for the Democrat Party. Sometimes they even force Bill Moyers on us. Fucking Moyers! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/16 "2016-07-14T03:57:13Z")
Dunno, haven’t watched PBS since Big Bird was revealed as a Trotskyite. Saw Dionne and Moyer’s arguing over who goes to The Wall first and it got ugly! Don’t know how to describe it if you didn’t see the boxing match between Tonya Harding and Tammy Faye Baker. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/17 "2016-07-14T04:26:09Z")
lIke I said before, when FOX news had to temporary replace his talking heads when they were sick (well they are already sick guys but you know what I mean) the replacements were usually people like Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich and even Chuck Norris. When ABC, CNN, NBC etc replaces his talking heads we got trainees that no one knows and usually vanilla in politics. If the right wing was correct about the bias in the mainstream media I would expect the temp replacements to be guys like Bill Moyers, Jon Steward ( 🙂 ), Jesse Jackson, etc. So, just imagine: **Live! Tonight on the Situation Room, substituting Wolf Blitzer tonight: Michael Moore!** [Unlikely, but I would’ve loved to see the right wingers crapping in their pants at the sight of that] ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/18 "2016-07-14T05:41:59Z")
Is it any surprise? Isn’t Trump’s slogan: Making America Straight Again. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/19 "2016-07-14T06:30:40Z")
Wait, America is light in the loofahs? Walking on the Wilde side? Was that, like, this morning? Was it sunspots, or something? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860/20 "2016-07-14T06:37:56Z")
> [@rat\_avatar](#): > > That is the 2012 platform…pre-Trump. I think there was only a draft of the 2016 platform so far but it was very wacko and is much further to the right. Not that I am a fan of the Daily Kos…it is the Lefts version of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity… The Daily Kos is horribly dishonest, offensive, vulgar, and conspiratorial? I know their coverage is somewhat slanted but I was not aware that they were liars the way Limbaugh and Hannity were or insane the way Beck is. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-daily-kos-and-the-shameful-disgraceful-lies-about-the-republican-platform/759860.md?page=2)