# I Pit damuriajashi and DemonTree

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 18, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300 "2020-12-18T00:49:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/201 "2021-05-18T19:50:54Z")

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And he calls the rest of us a hive mind, when he has permanently mind melded with the right wing propaganda machine.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/202 "2021-05-18T19:56:34Z")

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The hive mind belief is one of the more annoying ones. Why isn’t the more common reaction “Huh, these other people, who generally seem intelligent in other ways, seem to all disagree with me. Maybe I should see if they have a point?”

I mean, I didn’t think I was being insulting to people in a recent thread, but I was told I came off that way, so I backed out of the thread.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/203 "2021-05-18T20:19:45Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I mean, I didn’t think I was being insulting to people in a recent thread, but I was told I came off that way, so I backed out of the thread.

Perhaps, but in citing yourself as an example of someone with a notable ability to concede that other people have a point, if it now transpires that other people disagree that this is one of your notable characteristics, you should then be prepared to concede that other people making _that_ point have a point.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/204 "2021-05-18T21:15:36Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Perhaps, but in citing yourself as an example of someone with a notable ability to concede that other people have a point, if it now transpires that other people disagree that this is one of your notable characteristics, you should then be prepared to concede that other people making _that_ point have a point.

It would had I actually said what you claimed. I said I didn’t understand the “hivemind” claim, and then gave an example of a situation where I backed down. **octopus** , the guy I am talking about, never seems to back down.

I may think someone has a point, but that’s not the same thing as saying I think they’re right. You can be wrong but have some kernel of truth in what you’re saying. In this particular case, that kernel of truth is that I was coming off badly.

At no point do I think that such reactions towards what I say indicate a hivemind. But I very much do backdown all the time. If you think I don’t, then my conclusion is not that you are a hivemind, but that you are not here, seeing how often I back down. I may not be perfect in that, but I never claimed to be. It’s hard to know when you should argue back and when you should back down.

The thing I don’t get about octopus is how he never seems to consider that. Rather than backdown on anything, everyone arguing against him means we’re a hivemind. If he just concluded “I’m explaining myself poorly,” I’d have much less of a problem with him.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/205 "2021-05-18T21:59:00Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> **DemonTree** in all her glory showing how clueless she is and with her words show why the Orwellian reasons from white governors and congress people to ban Critical Race Theory do resonate among the ones that are clueless and disingenuous like her.

She’s not clueless, she’s just a straight up racist.

> [@Chingon](#):
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> @DemonTree is a race realist who believes there is a hierarchy of races with respect to intelligence, and that this explains differences in academic achievement.
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> This is real argument she’s been wanting to have the whole time.

Yep.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/206 "2021-05-18T22:01:57Z")

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As I said in the other tread, racism is ignorance too. A very peculiar form that causes a lot of harm.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/207 "2021-05-18T22:21:42Z")

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Whenever I read that twerp’s posts, the user name always scans as “Zonderstormfront”. Dollars to donuts, I’m not the only one experiencing that.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/208 "2021-05-18T23:08:48Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> It would…

So you posted 4 paragraphs insisting that I did not have a valid point when I suggested that maybe you aren’t the archetype for someone who readily admits that other people have a point.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/209 "2021-05-19T01:24:26Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Whenever I read that twerp’s posts

Well that right there is your problem. You read that twerp’s posts.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/210 "2021-05-19T02:01:31Z")

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Too true, friend. Too true.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/211 "2021-05-19T02:57:01Z")

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And the third stooge, **damuriajashi** , comes into ring; only to show how he forgets that he never posted evidence of CRT guiding the big “conspiracy” in education admissions. And regardless if evidence was posted already, damur still denies that some Asians or Jews are using CRT in research that he considers useless. I guess that what the Uighurs are enduring at the hands of the Chinese government is not useful to him.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/212 "2021-05-19T03:02:08Z")

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He’s another race realist, has been pretty clear about that for years now

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/213 "2021-05-19T08:20:01Z")

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He’s sealioning like a mf in the CRT thread.

I mean:

> [@Another Critical Race Theory thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-critical-race-theory-thread/941389/152):
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> > [@Another Critical Race Theory thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-critical-race-theory-thread/941389/152):
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> > You realize, of course, that the usual “alternative explanation” offered up is simply that black people really are intellectually inferior and naturally prone to criminality and moral bankruptcy.
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> Can you cite someone who has said that in the last couple of years?

Thanks, but I’m not biting on that “But they need to have said _those exact words!_”. hook. Been there, done that, told the morally bankrupt trolls to fuck off.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/214 "2021-05-19T09:22:04Z")

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DA’s _sooo_ badly wanting to have a discussion about why Asians do well at Uni without crossing that GD scientific racism line. The thirst, it’s palpable.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/215 "2021-05-19T10:22:41Z")

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DA’s shitting up that thread something fierce. "Oh, I’ve been away from the board for a few weeks, let me read a thread _and respond individually to every fucking post in it_! Nobody wants his opinion even once, much less five thousand times in a row.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/216 "2021-05-19T10:29:38Z")

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The “Does CRT claim everything bad is due to racism or can we keep blaming black people for underachieving?” argument is going well too.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/217 "2021-05-19T16:47:36Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> > [@Kimstu](#):
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> > And yet my loving campaign to stand up for motherhood by carefully distinguishing between real mothers and the mother-cosplaying “dopmothers”, who are getting all the perks of the “mother label” without putting their bodies on the line for them, goes nowhere. It’s rabid antimaternalism, I tells ya! #StopTheWarOnMothers
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> There **is** a poster on this very board who had made essentially that argument, arguing that adopted parents are akin to kidnappers (and iirc can result in vampires and werewolves)

_WAS_

That is all.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/218 "2021-05-19T17:19:44Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> That is all.

That _WAS_ all.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/219 "2021-05-19T17:23:58Z")

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Too-shay.

I REALLY need to read a few posts past the one I’m responding to, especially when there are tens of posts left before I catch up.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/220 "2021-05-19T21:59:12Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> **Was** a poster. Thankfully. Let’s all shake hands in celebration!

Hey, I’m now fully vaccinated. I’d be delighted to shake your hand.

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