# I Pit damuriajashi and DemonTree **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 18, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300 "2020-12-18T00:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/402 "2021-05-25T19:54:16Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > So you don’t really care if someone in your tribe is racist as long as it is a permissible sort of racism. I’m not telling you to go fuck yourself because I don’t want to confront iiandyiiii’s non-existent racism, I’m telling you to go fuck yourself because you’re a dishonest little toad, and there’s no point in trying to debate someone who has as little respect for the truth as you do. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/403 "2021-05-25T19:56:48Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > As if we were all fungible or something. This coming from the guy who thinks whole minority Asian ethnicities are “anecdote” against the Greater East Asian CoProsperity Sphere errrm, I mean, rounding errors in the success of “Confucian cultures” ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/404 "2021-05-25T19:59:50Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Shouldn’t the smartest man on the SDMB know that “noone” is not a word? Herman’s Hermits respectfully disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/405 "2021-05-25T20:34:40Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > So you don’t really care if someone in your tribe is racist as long as it is a permissible sort of racism. That kind of makes you complicit in his racism, doesn’t it? It’s legitimately amazing to watch you enthusiastically humping this bare mattress while thinking you’re getting laid. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/406 "2021-05-25T20:43:39Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > It’s legitimately amazing to watch you enthusiastically humping this bare mattress while thinking you’re getting laid. I thought that it was established that wolves are the ones that he liked to hump. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/407 "2021-05-25T20:43:53Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > It was a lottery. and the purpose of the lottery was to increase the black and hispanic population but the largest increase went to white kids. You found this preferable to the status quo. You would have preferred if nothing went to the white kids but at least the black and hispanic kids got something so you considered it an improvement. You generally waved away the cost to asian kids by saying that the asians were doing just fine. As if we were all fungible or something. Precisely the same logic you’re using to call iiandyiiii racist can be turned around on you: you would prefer nothing went to the white kids but at least the Asian kids get something so you consider the status quo superior to the proposal. You generally waved away the cost to Black and Latinx kids by saying that they don’t care about school as much as Asian kids do. As if everyone’s a racial stereotype. Preferring one imperfect solution _while acknowledging its imperfections_ is not what a racist does. A racial supremacist prefers social structures that allow members of their group to obtain and hold disproportionate power at the expense of other racial groups, including racial groups that are currently subject to other systemic racial oppression. And I’m not seeing a lot of daylight, in this case, between the “racial supremacist” position you hold and a racist position. It’s possible to oppose the new proposal without descending into racism. You fail to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/408 "2021-05-25T20:50:55Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > You generally waved away the cost to Black and Latinx kids by saying that they don’t care about school as much as Asian kids do. Well now to be fair, @damuriajashi isn’t married to the claim that they don’t care enough, he is also open to them simply being dumber or lazier (culturally of course wink wink). ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/409 "2021-05-25T21:02:06Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You’re a lying troll and dumb as a rock; go fuck yourself. Well I guess this IS the pit but your inability to make convincing argument and rely on dogpiling is unimpressive. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/410 "2021-05-25T21:03:41Z")
Well then i suppose you can go fuck yourself too. If you refuse to see the racism of your friends then how are you any better than a “principled conservative” that voted for trump? ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/411 "2021-05-25T21:04:26Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > This coming from the guy who thinks whole minority Asian ethnicities are “anecdote” against the Greater East Asian CoProsperity Sphere errrm, I mean, rounding errors in the success of “Confucian cultures” Nothing in many comments indicates that anyone is fungible. If you see it, you are imagining it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/412 "2021-05-25T21:07:27Z")
If you think that iiandyiiii is racist, how are you any less of a dumbfuck than a Trump voter? Answer: none. None less dumbfuck. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/413 "2021-05-25T21:09:02Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > Nothing in many comments indicates that anyone is fungible. If you see it, you are imagining it. [![](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/imagecomics/images/0/09/Lying_Cat_Saga_001.jpg) ](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/imagecomics/images/0/09/Lying_Cat_Saga_001.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/414 "2021-05-25T21:17:34Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > It’s legitimately amazing to watch you enthusiastically humping this bare mattress while thinking you’re getting laid. Would you let dogpiling idiots dissuade you from defending the truth? Would it hurt your feelings if the folks over at q-anon took over this site and called you an idiot on the dope. How much would it dissuade you? that’s pretty much most of the folks defending iiandyiii. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/415 "2021-05-25T21:21:13Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > Would you let dogpiling idiots dissuade you from defending the truth? Would it hurt your feelings if the folks over at q-anon took over this site and called you an idiot on the dope. How much would it dissuade you? I don’t fuckin hang out at QAnon, because I think they’re idiots. Straight up, anyone that hangs out at QAnon I question their sanity. If you think we’re the equivalent of QAnon, what are you getting out of this place, instead of just getting the fuck out of this place? Because we’re not QAnon. You’re QAnon, and you’re getting the same treatment here that we give to any other puffed-up jackass who wanders in and starts spouting their racial superiority theories. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/416 "2021-05-25T21:23:40Z")
If dogpiling idiots from QAnon called **Cervaise** an idiot, I wouldn’t believe them, because Cervaise’s posts are here for all to see and they are evidence that he is an intelligent poster. When you call **iiandyiiii** a racist, I also don’t believe you for exactly the same reason. When several people here call you an idiot, it doesn’t matter if I believe them, because again, all your posts are here for me to see. And they provide more than ample evidence that you are disingenuous, have some racist tendencies, and unfortunately, just aren’t as smart as you seem to think you are. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/417 "2021-05-25T21:28:13Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Precisely the same logic you’re using to call iiandyiiii racist can be turned around on you: you would prefer nothing went to the white kids but at least the Asian kids get something so you consider the status quo superior to the proposal. I am in favor of race neutral merit based criteria. The entire point is that I don’t want race to determine who gets what. > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > You generally waved away the cost to Black and Latinx kids by saying that they don’t care about school as much as Asian kids do. You see this is the sort of dishonest woke bullshit that you tell yourself to convince yourself youa re the good guy and not the villian. I never said that asians study more than blacks and hispanics. I said asian study more than pretty much everyone else. In fact the PEER REVIEWED STUDY I cited didn’t mention blacks or hispanics at all. > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Preferring one imperfect solution _while acknowledging its imperfections_ is not what a racist does. So because he doesn’t want to screw over asian kids to benefit white kids unless it also benefits a few black kids, that makes his attitude towards asian kids not racist? That blind spot you have wrt anti-asian racism is actually racism. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/418 "2021-05-25T21:29:40Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > I never said that asians study more than blacks and hispanics. I said asian study more than pretty much everyone else. Idiot, my paraphrase is a subset of what you said. “I never said apples were healthy, I said _fruit_ were healthy, you dishonest bullshitter!” Fuck off. You’re really stupid. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/419 "2021-05-25T21:29:43Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > It’s possible to oppose the new proposal without descending into racism. You fail to do so. How do I descend into racism? I am not the one treating anyone as a stereotype. Citing race based data is not stereotypoing. it’s data. Saying that asians already have enough so we can take from them to give to blacks (and whites and hispanics) is stereotyping. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/420 "2021-05-25T21:30:32Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > How do I descend into racism? “I know you’ve answered this question a shitload of times, but I’m too stupid and ideologically hidebound to even begin to understand the answers, so answer it again!” ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/421 "2021-05-25T21:31:47Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > So because he doesn’t want to screw over asian kids to benefit white kids unless it also benefits a few black kids, that makes his attitude towards asian kids not racist? That blind spot you have wrt anti-asian racism is actually racism. So because you don’t want to screw over Black kids to benefit Asian kids unless it also screws over White kids, that makes your attitude toward Black kids not racist? That blind spot you have wrt anti-Black racism is actually racism. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300.md?page=22)