# I Pit damuriajashi and DemonTree **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 18, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300 "2020-12-18T00:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/462 "2021-05-26T16:03:30Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > Do you even have black relatives? Do you even lift? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/463 "2021-05-26T16:05:24Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No one is buying this shit. Some of us send the shit right back, therefore never see it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/464 "2021-05-26T16:07:55Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If they want to get into a specific school and believe that doing so will help them further their life goals, refusing admission to them causes suffering according to their own metrics. It’s not my job, or yours, to tell them that they don’t really want what they say they want. So if a student wants to go to stanford for computer science but is not competitive for admissions, they “suffer” because other kids who are better qualified are getting in and they are not? That’s fucking stupid. > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Outright declaring support for a lottery system “racist” because it adversely impacts one racial group, while ignoring the adverse impact of a so-called “merit” system on a different racial group, is real dumb. We can have the discussion without recourse to stupid accusations of racism, but as long as you’re determined to make this fallacious accusation any time someone disagrees with your preferred adverse impacts, you’re going to get called dumb over and over. The lottery system is intended to have a racial impact. They’re not doing it to dumb down the school. They are doing it to achieve racial goals and they are adversely impacting a politically weak minority to do it. I can outright declare that is racist. Things that help blacks can be racist too. And what do you mean “so-called” merit based? Is the shsat racist? Because noone pushing for the elimination of the shsat claims that the test itself is racist. > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > We can have the discussion without recourse to stupid accusations of racism, but as long as you’re determined to make this fallacious accusation any time someone disagrees with your preferred adverse impacts, you’re going to get called dumb over and over. And yet accusations of racism against me are not fallacious or dumb. This is your tribalism talking. Lets compare the arguments for iiandyiiii racism versus my racism in that thread. The attitude seems to be that if there is some way to explain away racism from members of your tribe, then its stupid to call out that racism. But if there is any way you can characterize my posts as racist then my racism is so obvious that the argument doesn’t even have to be made. What do you think is the basis for calling me a racist? ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/465 "2021-05-26T16:09:52Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > More cite-free lazy bullshit from a rock-dumb confabulator. No one is buying this shit. You’re just a lazy dumbass liar. Do you even have any black relatives? If you do, how would i know that if you weren’t using them as rhetorical human shields? You are pretty low human scum using your relative’s skin color to bolster your arguments on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/466 "2021-05-26T16:10:42Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > So you can quote him doing this, right? > > Of course, you can’t, what am I saying? You’re a liar. You won’t cite jackshit. As reports and researchers noted, there is a connection with guys that are now using “woke” as an insult: they are usually guys that do seek to be seen as victims. And that is on top of using the word as a slur despite many blacks reporting too that the insulting way the word is used now becomes racist when it is used to mock minorities that used that word with the right context. As in actually being the ones denouncing injustice. This really fits with the racists from the right-wing that use the Orwellian mantra that it is “the liberals are the ones that are the real racists.” Seeing how those conservative racists continue to defend things like confederate monuments or take part in insurrections against the government, it is a continuation of the lying mantra that includes things similar to declaring that slavery was/is freedom. > **[Fighting myths, misconceptions and misunderstandings about race, slavery and...](https://www.virginiamercury.com/2019/05/23/fighting-myths-misconceptions-and-misunderstandings-about-race-slavery-and-the-civil-war/)** > > Slaves were treated well. Blacks fought in large numbers for the Confederacy. The Civil War was about states’ rights. These are myths, spread to dress up the horrors of slavery and justify Confederates, historians say. Many have racist origins.... ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/467 "2021-05-26T16:10:45Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > You are pretty low human scum using your relative’s skin color to bolster your arguments on the internet. Fuck you for continuing to lie about me, cite-free. Why on Earth would you think I’d answer your questions when you won’t even provide a cite for your continuous, ongoing lies about me? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/468 "2021-05-26T16:12:38Z")
Remember that time that damuriajashi admitted to a life-long crack addiction? It was in that one thread one time. I’m not going to cite anything because we don’t have to do that now. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/469 "2021-05-26T16:15:07Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Remember that time that damuriajashi admitted to a life-long crack addiction? It was in that one thread one time. I’m not going to cite anything because we don’t have to do that now. Unlike that, the clear projection observed in this thread alone confirms that DA humps wolves. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/470 "2021-05-26T16:28:47Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > What do you think is the basis for calling me a racist? Jesus Christ ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/471 "2021-05-26T16:30:55Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > And what do you mean “so-called” merit based? Is the shsat racist? Because noone pushing for the elimination of the shsat claims that the test itself is racist. [‘It Was Racist Then And It’s Racist Now’: NY Assembly Wrestles With Specialized High School Admission Testing](https://gothamist.com/news/it-was-racist-then-and-its-racist-now-ny-assembly-wrestles-with-specialized-high-school-admission-testing) ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/472 "2021-05-26T16:40:05Z")
What I find humorous is that the more Dumbass protests in this thread, the more persistently the message is displayed that he is a “[d]isingenuous racist/bigoted poster.” Keep digging. @DemonTree should be outraged. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/473 "2021-05-26T16:40:06Z")
From that article: > Since 2016, Mayor Bill de Blasio has pushed for an expansion to the admissions requirements for the eight specialized schools that rely solely on the test, and last year, he proposed eliminating the Specialized High School Admissions Test (SHSAT) entirely in exchange for moving to admit the top 7 percent of students from across the city instead. That test should just be called the SHAT. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/474 "2021-05-26T16:46:33Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > Before I go back and dig up more shit to provide proof of things you know happened (because you were on the thread) I thought you had no idea who I am? So either you do know who I am, or you’ve _already_ dug up the thread, realized it obviously doesn’t say what you thought it did, and are looking for an excuse not to cite it. Either way, you’re clearly a fucking liar. > [@damuriajashi](#): > > how about you make a reasonable argument for calling me a racist My “reasonable argument” is that you’ve posted racist things. Here. In this thread. Like I told you at the time. Your faulty memory is not my problem. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/475 "2021-05-26T17:08:55Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Fuck you for continuing to lie about me, cite-free. Why on Earth would you think I’d answer your questions when you won’t even provide a cite for your continuous, ongoing lies about me? It would be pretty easy to say you don’t have any black relatives. But I guess it sucks to realize that you have been using your in laws as props in an online debate. Kind of scummy if you ask me but YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/476 "2021-05-26T17:09:34Z")
Backup your claim, you lazy, lying fuck, or shut your lying fucking mouth. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/477 "2021-05-26T17:10:08Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Remember that time that damuriajashi admitted to a life-long crack addiction? It was in that one thread one time. I’m not going to cite anything because we don’t have to do that now. I’ve recovering from the crack addiction, I’m taking it one day at a time. ---
**Author:** ![saucywench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@saucywench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saucywench)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/478 "2021-05-26T17:11:40Z")
DA - When the racists are not wearing white hoods and/or burning crosses, we will know them by their “gap-toothed” visage? ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/479 "2021-05-26T17:19:37Z")
Wow, I stand corrected. Charles Barron thinks that a test that has been vetted by psychometricians for racism is still in fact racist. Do you agree with him? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/480 "2021-05-26T17:21:16Z")
I have not vetted it, so I am comfortable reserving judgment on the topic. I will, however, judge you, for _yet again_ making a claim without any concern as to whether your claim is supported by evidence. Even in a thread making fun of your for doing so, you persist in doing so. It says a lot about whether you even understand how to evaluate claims. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/481 "2021-05-26T17:22:08Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That test should just be called the SHAT. The proposal was actually the top 7% of each middle school. Many middle schools in NYC don’t have 7% of their students at grade level proficiency in math and english. These are all attempts to move the goalposts to change the racial profile of the school rather than provide good educations to children of all races. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300.md?page=25)