# I Pit damuriajashi and DemonTree **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 18, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300 "2020-12-18T00:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/502 "2021-05-26T17:47:50Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > I cited the racist comments you made in that thread. That’s a lie. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/503 "2021-05-26T17:47:55Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > He does not need to confirm that, As far as you’re concerned the people from your tribe can do no wrong. You depend entirely on tribalism on this site to avoid ridicule. You will notice how many more people are coming to the defense of my accusations of iiandyiiii’s racism compared to my comments about your very mediocre intelligence. You are mostly here to take shrapnel, throw grenades and link to the opinions of others. You have had maybe 2 original thoughts in your entire time on this board. But that’s OK. I am exaggerating when I say you are retarded. You aren’t actually retarded, you are just a lot dumber than you think you are. Somewhere along the line, despite any objective evidence of your intellect, you have convinced yourself that you are smart. I really do wish you happiness. I suspect we agree on about 80-90% on political topics and if i see you jumping on grenades for my side of the argument on this site, I might just let you take one for the team and show your ass. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/504 "2021-05-26T17:49:19Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Backup your claim, you lazy, lying fuck, or shut your lying fucking mouth. It would be easy to shut my mouth by saying you don’t have black relatives. Do you have black relatives? Maybe I am thinking of another poster that was on that thread that used their black relatives to add credibility to their arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/505 "2021-05-26T17:50:20Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > > [@damuriajashi](#): > > > > It was iiandyiiii that used his minority in laws to give himself some credibility. > > So you can quote him doing this, right? Unfortunately I _did_ see **iiandyiiii** leave this low blow, > [@Selective Magnet School in Virginia moving towards a lottery system](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selective-magnet-school-in-virginia-moving-towards-a-lottery-system/922347/23): > > Maybe it’s because you don’t have black or Hispanic kids in your friends or family and I do. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/506 "2021-05-26T17:50:55Z")
Maybe you should backup your claim about me, you lazy lying fuck, or shut your mouth. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/507 "2021-05-26T17:51:10Z")
How the fuck is that a “low blow”? ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/508 "2021-05-26T17:51:10Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > Can you cite the racist things I have posted. Here. In this thread. > [@MrDibble](#): > > Your faulty memory is not my problem. So… no? I mean with about 20 of you guys trying call me a racist you would think at lest one of you would be able to provide some evidence of this. Or am I the only one that has to provide any evidence of the claims I make? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/509 "2021-05-26T17:51:36Z")
How is that “hiding behind”? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/510 "2021-05-26T17:51:55Z")
It’s _ad hominem_, that’s how. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/511 "2021-05-26T17:52:36Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > Or am I the only one that has to provide any evidence of the claims I make? Looks more like you left it up to some other dumb asshole to do it, wrongly. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/512 "2021-05-26T17:53:42Z")
Oh, fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/513 "2021-05-26T17:54:21Z")
How is it “ad hominem”? Did you read the whole post and the posts leading up to that post? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/514 "2021-05-26T17:54:27Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > How is that “hiding behind”? It’s not. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/515 "2021-05-26T17:55:13Z")
So why the fuck are you defending DA’s lies about me, which were that I supposedly hide behind my family members? Or that I supposedly use them to get “credibility”? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/516 "2021-05-26T17:55:30Z")
Then why the fuck did you bring it up? Do you frequently step into bar fights and criticize the _quality of the dialectic_, motherfucker? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/517 "2021-05-26T18:03:26Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Or that I supposedly use them to get “credibility”? That’s what you did with the offhand remark I quoted, IMO. This isn’t your pitting though - it’s difficult to direct quote from a locked topic so I did it for **damuriajashi** as a courtesy. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/518 "2021-05-26T18:04:27Z")
How the fuck is explaining why I care about something “using them to get credibility”? What the fuck is wrong with mentioning why an issue is important to some people? ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/519 "2021-05-26T18:04:37Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > No, not necessarily. In my opinion, racism requires discrimination or prejudice on the basis of race. Disparate impact is a sign (or “indicia”) of prejudice and discrimination, but in my opinion the presence of disparate impact does not necessarily imply the presence of prejudice or discrimination. I think the definition of racism might have evolved to include things like systemic racism that does not require any discrimination or prejudice. But in this case the plan is explicitly being implemented to select children of one race over children of another race. > [@Max\_S](#): > > This appears to be a distinct and unsupported accusation. **iiandyiiii** wrote that he believed granting applications by lottery is more _fair_ than by test scores. Why do you think racial bias is necessary to justify that position? Because his purpose and goal is to select students of a particular race and his indifference to the negative impact on asian kids in pursuit of that goal shows a deep seated racial bias. If the disparate impact was against any other minority he would call it out as racism but when its against asians, he seems to change his tune. > [@Max\_S](#): > > It _could_ still be the case, unless the change is motivated by racism. But the mere fact that white students benefit does not imply racism. Racist motivation is not necessary for racism to exist. I don’t think iiandyiiii has an animus against asian kids, he’s going out of his way to hurt them. He just doesn’t consider them as important as kids of other races, he wants his version of social justice and if asian kids have to pay for all of it, well, that’s a price he is willing to have asian kids pay. That is racism by modern definitions isn’t it? One of the tenets of critical race theory is that nothing happens (good or bad) to minorities unless it also serves the interests of whites. It is probably more accurate to say that nothing happens for the benefit or detriment of politically weak groups unless it is for the benefit of politically powerful groups. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/520 "2021-05-26T18:05:19Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > That’s a lie. That’s because you don’t understand racism ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/521 "2021-05-26T18:05:21Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > That’s what you did with the offhand remark I quoted, IMO. No, he fucking did not. > [@Max\_S](#): > > it’s difficult to direct quote from a locked topic so I did it for **damuriajashi** as a courtesy. When you’re done giving him a quick handy behind the bushes, maybe you can fuck off… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300.md?page=27)