# I Pit damuriajashi and DemonTree **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 18, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300 "2020-12-18T00:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/121 "2021-02-13T08:20:39Z")
Aaw, thread closed before I could respond to the new set of lies about what I said in that schooling thread - although I see **DemonTree** , of all people, corrected them. Wonders never cease. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/122 "2021-02-13T17:08:28Z")
Zoster was the first person I ever put on ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/123 "2021-02-15T12:21:20Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And, for fuck’s sake, stop showing yourself to be a bigot by attacking someone’s English when you know they’re not a native speaker. It’s a complete lie to say you are not completely understandable. Yeah, **GIGO** is a far better writer in English than many posters we’ve had here. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/124 "2021-02-15T13:07:42Z")
I resentble that remark! ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/125 "2021-03-05T19:57:57Z")
It looks like everyone’s favourite Little Transphobe Who Could is [slipping up again](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closing-threads-again/937267/18)… ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/126 "2021-03-05T20:01:12Z")
She got her own separate thread this time. > [@Why are Christian Bookstores Allowed to Ban Books?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-christian-bookstores-allowed-to-ban-books/937271/90): > > Maybe not. I heard they sell Mein Kampf, though. The original plan is what I’d like to see more of these companies commit to. There’s a lot of worries about misinformation these days, and that’s understandable, but anything that looks like censorship or trying to hide the truth just increases mistrust and makes people more willing to believe alternative sources. I’ve seen this in action. And beyond that, the people making the decisions on what to suppress are far from infallible, and are as lik… ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/127 "2021-03-05T20:05:19Z")
If I’m not mistaken, DemonTree has identified as a female from the UK. I’ve never known a woman to be so seriously transphobic or as obsessed with the topic. Perhaps I’ve just led a sheltered life. But I get a real male vibe from its postings. I can’t help wondering if it isn’t really a conservative male disguised as a woman. Anyone else get that impression? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/128 "2021-03-05T20:08:00Z")
> [@Latimera](#): > > If I’m not mistaken, DemonTree has identified as a female from the UK. I’ve never known a woman to be so seriously transphobic or as obsessed with the topic. Perhaps I’ve just led a sheltered life. But I get a real male vibe from its postings. I can’t help wondering if it isn’t really a conservative male disguised as a woman. Anyone else get that impression? Unfortunately, TERFs are more common in the UK. And the way she reacts suggests that she finds trans women threatening to women, so it fits. What is a bit odd is how conservative she is, though. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/129 "2021-03-05T20:09:31Z")
> [@Latimera](#): > > I’ve never known a woman to be so seriously transphobic or as obsessed with the topic. Perhaps I’ve just led a sheltered life. You’ve been sheltered. Some of the most virulent transphobes out there are women. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/130 "2021-03-05T20:22:36Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > What is a bit odd is how conservative she is, though. Did you sleep through Brexit? The UK is not some garden of enlightenment compared to the USA. It’s just as riddled with backwards assholes. Worse, really, because they’re assholes without any real guilt - they don’t see their Empire as the truly evil thing it was, the way a lot (not all, yes, I know…) of US conservatives at least _try_ and distance themselves from slavery and Native oppression. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/131 "2021-03-05T20:27:31Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > You’ve been sheltered. Some of the most virulent transphobes out there are women. Really? That’s both interesting and disappointing. I admit that none of my circle of contacts show much in the way of transphobia or anti-gay sentiment. If they did they wouldn’t be in my circle anymore. I guess I tend to tune out transphobic news as being just more conservative bull. But I honestly hadn’t noticed much transphobia from women. Ignorance fought… ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/132 "2021-03-05T20:33:20Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > > [@BigT](#): > > > > What is a bit odd is how conservative she is, though. > > Did you sleep through Brexit? The UK is not some garden of enlightenment compared to the USA. It’s just as riddled with backwards assholes. I meant that it’s weird that she seems to push TERF-specific transphobia. So you’d think she’d be a feminist. But yet she’s way more conservative than any feminist I know of. She largely doesn’t seem to get that bigotry of any kind is actually wrong. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/133 "2021-03-05T20:35:55Z")
Nah, I actually think that she is JK Rowling in “disguise” ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/134 "2021-03-05T20:42:07Z")
> [@Latimera](#): > > But I honestly hadn’t noticed much transphobia from women. It’s a high profile phenomenon among some cis feminists who feel that the struggle against male oppression is somehow undermined by trans women. It can range from people who feel trans rights somehow detract focus from women’s rights; to more aggressive and paranoid flavors in which they claim trans women make cis women unsafe. It’s a strange situation where right wing bigotry and left wing bigotry have looped around and joined up. > **[Gender-critical feminism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERF)** > > Gender-critical feminism, also known as trans-exclusionary radical feminism or TERFism, is an ideology or movement that opposes what it refers to as "gender ideology": the concept of gender identity and transgender rights, especially gender self-identification. Gender-critical feminists believe that sex is biological and immutable, while believing gender, including both gender identity and gender roles, to be inherently oppressive. They reject the concept of transgender ide Originating as a f... ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/135 "2021-03-05T20:43:25Z")
Don’t get me wrong, as a demographic, women are slightly better on trans rights than men. [But TERFs are a real thing.](https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/10/15/gender-critical-posie-parker-interview-jean-francois-gariepy-mumsnet/) ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/136 "2021-03-05T20:43:41Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > It’s a high profile phenomenon among some cis feminists who feel that the struggle against male oppression is somehow undermined by trans women. It can range from people who feel trans rights somehow detract focus from women’s rights; to more aggressive and paranoid flavors in which they claim trans women make cis women unsafe. Thanks. Again, ignorance fought. The irony… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/137 "2021-03-05T21:24:04Z")
For a radical feminist I can see how a person may feel that they’ve spent their whole life fighting for the rights of women against men who are the oppressors, and now there are men pretending to be women, completely coopting a woman’s identity and struggle. Not only are women subservient to men, they don’t even get the exclusive right to be women anymore. Personally, I have friends who are trans women and I can’t even imagine what they struggle through. It’s like the minimum wage worker who struggles to put food on the table and gripes because a homeless person can get a free meal at a soup kitchen. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/138 "2021-03-05T23:49:49Z")
I’m related to one. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/139 "2021-03-05T23:59:58Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > It’s a strange situation where right wing bigotry and left wing bigotry have looped around and joined up. So you could say they’ve found common … 🤏 👓 🕶 Turf. YEAAAAHHHHHH! ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/140 "2021-03-06T01:23:21Z")
> [@Latimera](#): > > Thanks. Again, ignorance fought. The irony… …the biggest anti-transgender movement here in NZ is called “Speak up for Women”, it labels itself explicitly as a feminist organization and all of their spokespeople (as far as I’m aware) are women. There are obviously plenty of anti-transgender men. But those men often use groups like Speak Up as a shield. Hence almost all of the anti-transgender stuff that we have down here if fronted by women. It is also used as a tactic to shout down cis male allies of transgender people: “of course you would say that, you are just protecting other men!” You can also look to places like mumsn$t, (masked to prevent accidentally summoning them) where a lot of this stuff is just rampant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300.md?page=8)