# I Pit damuriajashi and DemonTree **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 18, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300 "2020-12-18T00:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/161 "2021-03-16T11:40:51Z")
Sorry, what the everliving _fuck_ are you on about? Fuck off, will you? Whoever the fuck you are. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/162 "2021-03-16T12:03:18Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Fuck off, will you? Whoever the fuck you are. **chela’s** someone I’ve been vaguely aware of for years now, they’ve sort of been in the “unremarkable but inoffensive” pool of dopers. In the past couple of months, though, they’ve risen up like a bubble of sewer gas in a broken toilet. This, though? Suggesting that a bog-standard response to a bad pun is a death threat? This crosses into **doorhinge** territory. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/163 "2021-03-16T13:14:21Z")
LHOD absolutely nails it and I’m quoting their post in its entirety because it’s so good: > [@Normal is the new abnormal -- forbidden adjectives](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/normal-is-the-new-abnormal-forbidden-adjectives/937554/261): > > This is a pretty important point to pull out: to the extent–the _only_ extent–that I’ve seen **Demontree** express any concern over racism, it’s in service of a campaign to deprive transgender folks of rights. She’s wielding the concept of racism as a cudgel against people who oppose her political stance on a completely different subject, and co-opting **monstro** and **ywtf** ’s story to support her position. She’s explaining to a person of color why they’re wrong to think this isn’t an example of racism. She’s turned a thread about fucking _shampoo labeling_ into an arena in which to relitigate her anti-transgender views: maybe people don’t oppose her because they’re misogynists, maybe it’s because they’re racist! > > This cynical approach to conversations around racism is some pretty aggressive nonsense, and it’s a tricky thing to navigate without violating board rules. I’m having to watch what I post pretty carefully on this topic, and it’s in danger of becoming too toxic for me to remain without racking up a warning. DemonTree’s little “here are two black people who agree with me so you’re a racist if you disagree! Checkmate libtards” routine is supremely tiresome. And par for the course every thread she posts in turns to one of her transphobic rants. She REALLY needs a topic ban. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/164 "2021-03-16T15:23:13Z")
Yeah your such a sly cunning fuckwit, ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/165 "2021-03-16T15:24:51Z")
Such a master of the slimy slurs bite me dog breath. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/166 "2021-03-16T15:27:47Z")
> [@Normal is the new abnormal -- forbidden adjectives](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/normal-is-the-new-abnormal-forbidden-adjectives/937554/263): > > > [@Normal is the new abnormal -- forbidden adjectives](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/normal-is-the-new-abnormal-forbidden-adjectives/937554/253): > > > > No. It’s not like affirmative action, where you’re giving PoCs privileges for historic injustice. In this case you’re giving them just for the colour of their skin. > > That’s exactly what anti-racism is. If each group isn’t equally represented, they need to be given privileges until they are. It doesn’t matter if it’s due to historic injustice or not, it’s axiomatic that inequity = racism and requires affirmative action to fix. > > > [@Normal is the new abnormal -- forbidden adjectives](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/normal-is-the-new-abnormal-forbidden-adjectives/937554/253): > > > > Alternatively, _by your own logic_ , if it is anti-racist, then it at least “Strongly resembles” racism, anyway. > > Yes, I agree. It _would_ be racist to allow more latitude for POCs to break the rules, and I’m not proposing any such thing. 🤨 DemonTree? More like DemonStrawman ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/167 "2021-03-16T15:36:14Z")
Since that thread is now under mod sanction, I just wanted to post here (since I’m sure she’ll read it) > [@Normal is the new abnormal -- forbidden adjectives](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/normal-is-the-new-abnormal-forbidden-adjectives/937554/263): > > That’s exactly what anti-racism is. If each group isn’t equally represented, they need to be given privileges until they are. We already know you have no idea what anti-racism actually is, no need to keep on illustrating it. > [@Normal is the new abnormal -- forbidden adjectives](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/normal-is-the-new-abnormal-forbidden-adjectives/937554/263): > > I was also thinking of **Bone** , who gave his reasons for leaving in a post (and it wasn’t racism Yeah, _maybe_ he shouldn’t have tried to start a board war, as a mod, on a subject he couldn’t win and was on the wrong side of things on… the post hoc “Oh, all my conservative bros have fled” rationale rang kind of hollow after that, his name was already mud. > [@Normal is the new abnormal -- forbidden adjectives](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/normal-is-the-new-abnormal-forbidden-adjectives/937554/263): > > That’s probably because you haven’t read the threads on woke racism in schools. @Left_Hand_of_Dorkness I’m afraid your very professional posts in those threads have gone right through the empty space between her ears with no impression. Or she’s accusing you of posting in them without reading them, but that would be way too subtle and clever given her record. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/168 "2021-03-16T15:37:12Z")
> [@chela](#): > > Bull shit, in the context of this thread I call it foul. So report it – there has been at least one banning based on a death threat down here in the Pit – and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/169 "2021-03-16T15:41:19Z")
> [@chela](#): > > Yeah your such a sly cunning fuckwit, WTF? It was a joke. About puns. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/170 "2021-03-16T15:41:36Z")
> [@Normal is the new abnormal -- forbidden adjectives](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/normal-is-the-new-abnormal-forbidden-adjectives/937554/263): > > {…} If each group isn’t equally represented, they need to be given privileges until they are. {…} I would really love to know what the fuck she’s talking about. Given that “Blacks are getting special privileges that Whites don’t get!” is a historic racist trope, it really isn’t a good look for you @DemonTree. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/171 "2021-03-16T15:43:28Z")
I will merely point out the giant irony of calling me a fuckwit while being unable to spell _you’re_ or use a comma correctly. That, and repeat my invitation that you fuck off. I have no idea why you chose _me_ for this little flaming-out performance art exercise you have going on, but I’m not particularly fazed. I’ve heard better insults just walking past the drugged-out streetwalkers berating their Johns. Oh, BTW, your mom says “Hi!” ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/172 "2021-03-16T15:46:21Z")
She can’t be racist, she has a Black niece! ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/173 "2021-03-16T16:40:27Z")
I did but my experience with Miller is they’re asleep at the wheel. I’ll get a robo email from them in about a week. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/174 "2021-03-16T16:49:19Z")
> [@chela](#): > > they’re asleep at the wheel. You are saying that you want Miller to die in a fiery car crash??? For shame!! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/175 "2021-03-16T16:57:36Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I have no idea why you chose _me_ for this little flaming-out performance art exercise you have going on, but I’m not particularly fazed. IAN chela and cannot speak for her/him, but my interpretation of what happened here is as follows: MrDibble’s post #156 quotes DemonTree from the other thread: > [@DemonTree](#): > > “There are two primary theories. The one I agree with, and this one line caricature.” I’d give you an F for this argument. [i.e., DemonTree thinks the quoted paraphrased argument deserves a low grade.] chela mistakenly thinks that the “I’d give you an F” remark is MrDibble’s own response to DemonTree, and asks in post #157 whether the “F” stands for “fucking” or a death threat. [Which, btw, ?? Personally, I have never heard the expression “giving somebody an F” interpreted as any kind of threat of physical violence, no idea where chela got that.] So ISTM this whole pileup is ultimately based on chela’s original misunderstanding of which poster said what. (And also weirdly deciding that the expression “I’d give you an F” counts as some kind of death threat.) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/176 "2021-03-16T16:59:18Z")
I assumed “give you an F” meant a failing grade. There is no other reasonable interpretation. (Though I think **chela** was referring to the hanging line, which was a joke.) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/177 "2021-03-16T17:00:11Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > chela mistakenly thinks that the “I’d give you an F” remark is MrDibble’s own response to DemonTree, and asks in post #157 whether the “F” stands for “fucking” or a death threat. It’s even dumber than that. Here’s the chain of posts: > [@Ludovic](#): > > So you could say they’ve found common … > > 🤏 👓 🕶 > > Turf. YEAAAAHHHHHH! > [@MrDibble](#): > > Hanging’s too good for some people… > [@chela](#): > > Is this cowboy speak for I want to fuck you or a casual death threat? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/178 "2021-03-16T17:03:24Z")
Oh, I see. Yeah, I don’t know either how anybody could possibly interpret that joke as either a sexual invitation or any kind of seriously-intended threat. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/179 "2021-03-16T17:38:55Z")
I’ll explain, they wrote ”hanging is too good for some people,”in response to a post about terfs. since we’re in the pit, where their hatred of the targeted sdmb members is loud and clear, I took it literally. That’s why I called them a sly cunning fuckwit. They know it too. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/180 "2021-03-16T17:40:30Z")
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