# I Pit damuriajashi and DemonTree

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**Created:** [December 18, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300 "2020-12-18T00:49:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/433 "2021-05-26T00:48:10Z")

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> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> But he felt this reduction in overall minority presence was fine because the minorities he wanted to increase got more seats. He felt the reduction in the asian admissions was also aceptable because asians are doing fine so he was fine with asian kids losing out.
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> In response to my pointing out the effect of making the school whiter at the expense of asian students, he responded:
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> “That’s not the goal, and that might be a very slight negative, but the other benefits make this new policy superior to the status quo.”

Actually yes, I do see where **iiandyiiii** wrote to that effect. See post #67 from the linked topic,

> > [@Selective Magnet School in Virginia moving towards a lottery system](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selective-magnet-school-in-virginia-moving-towards-a-lottery-system/922347/67):
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> > > [@Selective Magnet School in Virginia moving towards a lottery system](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selective-magnet-school-in-virginia-moving-towards-a-lottery-system/922347/51):
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> > > The studies done by FCPS specifically point out that asian admissions will shrink and black/hispanic/white admissions will increase. How do you justify rejecting more accomplished asians to make room for less accomplished white kids?
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> > That’s a side affect, not the goal. It’s still better than the status quo, though. With the status quo, black and Hispanic kids are underserved by this educational service. This lessens this, without underserving Asian kids. Asian kids still have plenty of access to this (and other) quality educational services in the area.

> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> So yeah, he considers asian kids acceptable collateral damage in the pursuit of social justice.

I’m relieved to learn you did not mean Asian kids are collateral damage in the traditional sense. But yes, having reviewed the topic, **iiandyiiii** ’s posts indicate that he believes lessening the prospects of Asian kids getting into this particular school is acceptable ‘collateral damage’ in the pursuit of social justice (specifically increasing Black and Hispanic admissions).

The only thing you have to do now is explain how that is racist - I do not believe the mere consequence of an action or policy adversely affecting a minority group implies that the policy or its defenders are racist.

For example a teacher may decide to change seating arrangements. Assume that for the most part, Asian students are stereotypically short and Black students stereotypically tall. Whereas before students were seated by height, now they will be seated alphabetically. I do not think the change is racist simply because Asian students lose their front row seats.

~Max

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