# I Pit damuriajashi and DemonTree

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**Created:** [December 18, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300 "2020-12-18T00:49:58Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/679 "2021-06-07T13:33:05Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> This is you arguing that it should be okay for trans women to be discriminated against and excluded from groups made up of “biological women,” not merely asserting that that there is a difference between sex and gender identity.

I said both things and I stand by both things, no pretence or disingenuous intent on my part at all. They were two comments in two different posts and referring to two different levels of commentary that attracted the same level of response and condemnation from Stonewall.

I suspect you simply don’t like the fact that I don’t fully subscribe to Stonewall’s position. (I’m sure they’d call me a transphobe for having even the mildest of reservations on their approach)

I do think biological sex and gender are different things,  
do you?

I also think there are circumstances where biological females might have a reasonable expectation to maintain boundaries for certain single-sex areas.  
do you?

Stonewall’s push for _simple self-identification_ as being sufficient for access to any single-sex area seems something that it should be possible to argue against without being labelled a transphobe or being compared to an anti-semite. If not, well the terms end up meaningless.

One question for you.  
Do you think that there should be any spaces ring-fenced on the basis of biological sex?

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