# I pit dark ass bourgeoisie neighborhoods!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 11, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829 "2025-01-11T00:50:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/41 "2025-01-11T18:00:54Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Why live there, then?

I’m assuming because he loves the house and the neighborhood more than he dislikes the lack of streetlights? Also, since he lives there, he knows the topography.  
This isn’t some rural area I’m speaking of; it’s right off a main corridor so it’s not exactly escaping the light pollution.  
The “bougie” part is really just a bit of snark(on my part, anyway) and probably doesn’t help the OP’s point.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/42 "2025-01-11T18:13:48Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> I’d have more respect for the “it’s dark out in the country, we enjoy the stars” bougies if they weren’t also “it’s stinky out in the country, let’s re-zone out all these farmers.”

A lot of us farmers like it dark, too. And I’m surrounded by dairy farmers, and would a lot rather smell cow shit than car exhaust.

> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I don’t mind dark neighborhoods, but it would be nice to be able to read house numbers

It’s possible to light just the house numbers: a small light just above them, shielded so it’s directed just at the numbers. No need to light the whole damn street.

I don’t bother; but if emergency services can’t find the last place on a dead end road with no other house for hundreds of feet, they wouldn’t be able to find it with the numbers lit, either.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/43 "2025-01-11T18:26:23Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> it would be nice to be able to read house numbers, such as when I’ve visiting someone’s house for the first time.

The idea of lighting one’s address, and even the front of the house, for invited guests is something different than what the OP seems to be describing.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/44 "2025-01-11T18:27:45Z")

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I have a mailbox like this in front. You don’t even need a light.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/45 "2025-01-11T18:51:07Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> I have a mailbox like this in front. You don’t even need a light.

Talk about bougie! 😉

My mailbox has our street address on it too. No way you can see the numbers on our house unless you were really looking (our house is back from the road enough, and we have a small orchard out front).

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/46 "2025-01-11T19:15:43Z")

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I put my address into hexadecimal, which prevents the unsophisticated riff-raff from bothering me with surveys and junk mail flyers.

I also have a pair of surplus 20mm autocannons pointing down the front walk with a sign that says, “Approach at your own extreme risk!” and a Cane Corso name ‘Sweetheart’. Don’t come to my house unless you’ve received an invitation complete with passcodes and directions on how to avoid the anti-personnel mines. And _don’t be late!_

Stranger

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/47 "2025-01-11T19:28:14Z")

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Too complicated.  
I just have my patrol bear on the beat:

[https://i.imgur.com/VBmHF9q.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/VBmHF9q.mp4)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/48 "2025-01-11T19:31:34Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I don’t mind dark neighborhoods, but it would be nice to be able to read house numbers, such as when I’ve visiting someone’s house for the first time. It might also help if you need emergency services to find your house.

We have a thing called a front porch light that we can turn on when we’re expecting company. The house number is on the door as well as on the mailbox post, which headlights would illuminate. I bet emergency vehicles use headlights.

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> It’s possible to light just the house numbers: a small light just above them, shielded so it’s directed just at the numbers. No need to light the whole damn street.

This.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/49 "2025-01-11T19:40:48Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I don’t mind dark neighborhoods, but it would be nice to be able to read house numbers, such as when I’ve visiting someone’s house for the first time. It might also help if you need emergency services to find your house.

GPS is your friend. Some of us paid extra so we’re not lit up like a Brooklyn Basketball Court at 8 PM.

If the OP is afraid of the dark? Good.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/50 "2025-01-11T19:44:06Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> Too complicated.  
> I just have my patrol bear on the beat

I’d like to have a “patrol bear” but the neighbors would bitch about mot being able to leave their trash unsecured and bears tend to not follow a set schedule because of difficulties winding a pocket watch when you have these big dumb paws and no opposable thumbs.

I bet this guy doesn’t get many unwanted human visitors:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Adj19hUE8lA/maxresdefault.jpg "Bear Lola and Cubs — As Curious As Ever") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adj19hUE8lA)

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/51 "2025-01-11T19:57:09Z")

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On a more serious note, as building codes and land use codes get updated, almost all are going to “dark sky rated” exterior light fixtures. Your 480V sodium vapor klieg light is no longer welcome. You may have noticed newer street lights that are LED and designed specifically to scatter much much less. Same deal.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/52 "2025-01-11T20:37:16Z")

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> [@Tride](#):
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> Your 480V sodium vapor klieg light is no longer welcome.

But I _just_ polished it!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/53 "2025-01-11T20:46:31Z")

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> [@Tride](#):
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> You may have noticed newer street lights that are LED and designed specifically to scatter much much less. Same deal.

Now we just need a state law that the cops will promptly arrest the manager of any street lighting department that leaves one blinking for more than 48 hours after it’s reported. And no, lack of budget to afford replacements is not an excuse; pull out your Visa there Mr Manager.

The crazily blinking LED streetlights are a modern bane.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/54 "2025-01-11T20:51:00Z")

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I bought this “farmhouse” light and put an LED puck bulb in to.  
Not only does it keep light out of the sky, and confine it to my yard, but it has a motion detector that charges it from dim to bright, so it’s just a “nightlight” when nobody is near it:  
[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/9r9cEfz.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/9r9cEfz)

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/55 "2025-01-11T21:45:02Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> bears tend to not follow a set schedule

Yeah, security not patrolling on a set schedule seems like it should be one of those evil mastermind rules.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/56 "2025-01-12T03:57:49Z")

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I’m in the dark skies camp, too. I’m more bothered by the poorly executed street and security lights that actually reduce what you can see at night because it’s shining directly into your eyes.

And you can actually see more than you think at night if you just remove the artificial lighting.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/57 "2025-01-12T04:11:03Z")

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I think OP is borderline troll. Will they come back?

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/58 "2025-01-12T04:11:34Z")

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Let’s hope not.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/59 "2025-01-12T04:12:33Z")

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How much would you gamble on this? 😉

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-dark-ass-bourgeoisie-neighborhoods/1012829/60 "2025-01-12T04:13:25Z")

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I’m not that degenerate.

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