# I Pit Darren Garrison **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 11, 2021, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165 "2021-11-11T03:27:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/21 "2021-11-11T05:17:49Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > He knows he’s wrong. I stand by everything I have said. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/22 "2021-11-11T05:35:54Z")
Yes, lots of people who are wrong stand by what they say. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/23 "2021-11-11T05:41:30Z")
Yeah, no, @Snarky_Kong. Telling another poster that is absolutely not allowed. Warning, of course, and we’ll take this up in the mod loop. RickJay Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/24 "2021-11-11T05:41:46Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > That’s awful thin as probable cause to try and detain someone with a firearm. Awful thin. Nobody’s claiming that they were genius legal experts. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/25 "2021-11-11T05:43:07Z")
Have fun ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/26 "2021-11-11T05:44:47Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > There was no sign posted stating “no trespassing” on the site Arbery walked onto. That’s kind of an odd thing not to do, especially given that they went to the trouble to put up multiple security cameras to record trespassers. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/27 "2021-11-11T06:02:15Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > He should have surrendered and waited for the police to arrest him. Yeah, because nothing bad ever happens to Black guys who are chased by a couple of armed white Jethros. 🙄 Yet somehow Officer Jeff Brandenberry said, > I saw him [McMichael] and to be honest if I would have gotten a shot I would have shot him myself because he was that violent. and another investigator said McMichael threatened him at the police station, saying > I will blow your F\*\*\*\*\* head off. Yeah, that’s the kind of person I’d have surrendered to. 🙄 I mean, no chance he was just a ramped-up violent asshole, right? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/28 "2021-11-11T06:13:07Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > That’s kind of an odd thing not to do, especially given that they went to the trouble to put up multiple security cameras to record trespassers. Perhaps so. Maybe the owners didn’t understand the law either, but there it stands. Site unsecured, no warning signs placed. > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Nobody’s claiming that they were genius legal experts. Well, we can agree on that. Where I guess we don’t agree is that IMO if you’re going to chase someone down to make an armed citizen’s arrest, you better be damn sure you know the legalities inside and out. Of course also IMO you should never do so in the first place and thankfully as a result of this tragedy you no longer legally can in these circumstances in Georgia. Armed vigilantism is bullshit. But putting that aside, you better be very, very sure of yourself or you are going to prison. That was something I was taught decades ago about performing a citizen’s arrest, back in High School even. Not being a bellicose asshole looking for trouble would be wise as well. And these gentlemen should and hopefully will be jailed for a good long time to come. I don’t believe in the death penalty, so I won’t go there. But life or a reasonable facsimile? Sure. I have no problem with ‘ruining their lives.’ They aggressively ruined someone else’s far worse based on some very weak assumptions. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/29 "2021-11-11T09:20:31Z")
Except you’re evidently expecting the readership here to believe you are. Funny thing: you’re completely wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/30 "2021-11-11T09:47:09Z")
I do so love the “He attacked me because I was threatening to shoot him, and therefore my shooting him was self-defense!” arguments. History is written by the survivors. Also, it would be helpful to have a list of which crimes it’s okay to summarily execute someone for. Thus far I’ve got trespassing, passing a counterfeit bill, and buying Skittles. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/31 "2021-11-11T11:51:20Z")
How about “Existing while Black”? That seems to be a popular crime to commit and a popular crime to kill someone for. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/32 "2021-11-11T12:02:43Z")
I endorse this pitting. What racist, ignorant bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/33 "2021-11-11T12:44:21Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I do so love the “He attacked me because I was threatening to shoot him, and therefore my shooting him was self-defense!” Yep. It’s abundantly clear that the only people with a “legitimate” right to self defense are the ones carrying the guns. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/34 "2021-11-11T14:00:42Z")
I eagerly await Darren to explain to the almost 700 people at the capital riot that criminal trespass and resisting should result in the death penalty. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/35 "2021-11-11T14:02:35Z")
Ya know, he might just have a point when you consider that. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/36 "2021-11-11T14:13:03Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > How about “Existing while Black”? That seems to be a popular crime to commit and a popular crime to kill someone for. [A few others come to mind.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8EpfyCG2Y) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/37 "2021-11-11T14:56:22Z")
To be honest, I don’t really think that he’s a racist. He’s just extremely stubborn, and would rather be thought of as a racist than as being wrong. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/38 "2021-11-11T15:16:10Z")
No. He’s a racist. Anyway to twist the story so that the white people were not at fault. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/39 "2021-11-11T15:50:32Z")
Fair enough, I don’t really follow him all that closely. Just have had interactions where everything was twisted in order to prevent him from admitting being wrong. Hadn’t really seen anything blatantly racist until that thread. But I’ll certainly take your word for it if he has shown such prolictivities elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165/40 "2021-11-11T16:22:11Z")
Here’s the thing. The murderers didn’t see any trespass on the day that they murdered Arbury. So, even if there was some Black person on video in the past who was seen trespassing on that property, it has nothing to do with what happened that day – they didn’t see him trespass, and they didn’t see the video that day. They may have seen videos from previous days that showed a Black man. Then, on the day of the murder, they saw a Black man – I guess they think that there is only one Black man in Georgia or something? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-darren-garrison/954165.md?page=3)