# I pit Diamonds02 and his honk-happy friend

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 13, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065 "2011-12-13T19:39:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/141 "2012-05-23T23:56:56Z")

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Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![Diamonds02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Diamonds02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diamonds02)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/142 "2012-05-24T03:22:49Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> **vv** is definitely weird, but she does not even come close to the scale of utter cluelessness and stupidity of **Diamonds**. “If I can only find a way to reproduce these plants and sell them, I’ll be rolling in cash!” No, bitch, you just described farming. A practice which as a one-man operation has not made anybody rich, ever, and has existed for literally thousands of years. Fucking idiot.

Good farmers make over 50k a year.

Differents folks, different strokes, you overprivileged douche.

Anything over 30k per year is a LOT of money to me.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/143 "2012-05-24T03:49:38Z")

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You don’t even know a cultivar from a weed growing in a ditch. What’s going to make you a good farmer? Farming is not an EZ get-rich-quick scheme. It’s a metric ass-load of hard work and knowhow. AND, as **ladyfoxfyre** said, NOT a one person job if you want to make money at it.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/144 "2012-05-24T10:35:45Z")

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> [@Diamonds02](#):
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> Good farmers make over 50k a year.

Yes, but good farmers need specialist knowledge, the determination to work hard, ability to manage money and to get on with others.

Your postings here do not suggest you have any of these qualities.

> [@Diamonds02](#):
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> Differents folks, different strokes, you overprivileged douche.

Here’s an example…

> [@Diamonds02](#):
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> Anything over 30k per year is a LOT of money to me.

That has **no bearing** on whether you can earn it.

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**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/145 "2012-05-24T12:03:16Z")

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> [@Jenaroph](#):
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> What the hell kind of flowers are growing EVERYWHERE that anybody would pay a shit-ton of money for? Roadside weeds? Wildflowers? Nobody WANTS those. They’re WEEDS. They tend to be leggy, invasive, scraggly, and look like crap in a well-tended garden. People pay money to have people dig those OUT of their yards.
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> What do you know about flowers? What do you know about breeding healthy, attractive perennials, that will look consistently good when they come back every year, that people would want to buy and plant in their own gardens?

Nitpick. A weed is technically ANY plant that isn’t where it should be. Oak trees can be weeds.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/146 "2012-05-24T13:02:08Z")

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> [@Acid\_Lamp](#):
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> Nitpick. A weed is technically ANY plant that isn’t where it should be. Oak trees can be weeds.

So what is the human equivalent of a weed? Can we call it a Diamonds02?

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/147 "2012-05-24T13:10:04Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> So what is the human equivalent of a weed? Can we call it a Diamonds02?

Nailed it. Nice job!

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/148 "2012-05-24T13:18:01Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> No, bitch, you just described farming. A practice which as a one-man operation has not made anybody rich, ever, and has existed for literally thousands of years.

[Mitchell & Webb farming sketches.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pDTiFkXgEE) Note: Bit sweary.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/149 "2012-05-24T13:24:56Z")

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> [@Diamonds02](#):
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> Good farmers make over 50k a year.
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> Differents folks, different strokes, you overprivileged douche.
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> Anything over 30k per year is a LOT of money to me.

Yes, with your “I’ll steal plants and plant them, then profit!” scheme, you are clearly in line to become a great farmer some day. You will not earn 30k stealing plants to grow and sell. You will not earn 10k stealing plants to grow and sell. Because you are an idiot. Who thinks you can get rich stealing plants to grow and sell.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/150 "2012-05-24T13:43:14Z")

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> [@Kal](#):
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> [Mitchell & Webb farming sketches.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pDTiFkXgEE) Note: Bit sweary.

This is exactly how I picture her scheming to work, actually. Awesome.

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/151 "2012-05-24T13:57:13Z")

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> [@Diamonds02](#):
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> Good farmers make over 50k a year.
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> Differents folks, different strokes, you overprivileged douche.
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> Anything over 30k per year is a LOT of money to me.

And where does that 50 big go, do you think? Big time farms are huge operations, not a few flowerpots on the back porch.

Mortgage and property taxes on the land and buildings they own, lease payments to whoever does if they rent.

Cost of seed, fertilizer, irrigation, pest control.

Purchase/maintenance of equipment, buildings, vehicles.

Hiring workers to help with all of the above.

Their own personal living expenses, health care, raising a family etc.

Not to mention the fact that a year’s profits can be wiped out by storms, drought, late/early frosts, insects, or just plain old bad luck like a batch of bad seed.

Farmers are hardly kicking back eating peeled grapes off gold platters before cruising off to Palm Beach in their diamond-encrusted Lamborghinis.

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**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/152 "2012-05-24T14:34:37Z")

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Farming is also not a side hustle. It is a full time capitol intensive occupation.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/153 "2012-05-24T14:36:50Z")

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Not to mention that all these “rich” farmers making $50k a year are working MORE than full time. Farming can be back breaking work, and you’re likely going to be doing some kind of work all day, every day.

Further, these days, you need a sizable plot of land (thousands of acres) to make that kind of living, and your main cash crop has to be something people actually want and will pay a reasonable price for. Farmers have been ruined by events out of their control - like the price of corn falling or a particularly bad storm.

To make anything close to $10k a year from random plants off the side of the road (i.e. weeds, mostly) would be a full time job in itself with an incredibly large chance of failure.

I will note you can make at least pocket change by taking wild berries (prickly pear cactus also works in Texas) and producing some jams and jellies. Of course, that’s also a lot of work, and your profit margin is pretty damned small.

I’d say let **Diamonds** try. Let her find out just how hard farmers actually work and why we’ve developed agriculture, rather than stick with gathering plants from random plots of land. Sometimes, direct experience is the only way to cure idiocy.

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/154 "2012-05-24T14:40:39Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> I will note you can make at least pocket change by taking wild berries (prickly pear cactus also works in Texas) and producing some jams and jellies. Of course, that’s also a lot of work, and your profit margin is pretty damned small.

Mmmm, nightshade preserves. My favorite!

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/155 "2012-05-24T14:42:10Z")

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> [@Kal](#):
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> [Mitchell & Webb farming sketches.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pDTiFkXgEE) Note: Bit sweary.

Welp, that confirms it. I am invisible.

(Post #98, if anyone can see this)

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/156 "2012-05-24T14:54:24Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Well, she did start a thread a week ago that had the implication she thought shitting on somebody’s deck was an acceptable form of revenge.
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15073857&postcount=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15073857&postcount=1)

Gotta start reading slower. I wondered how she was going to shit on someone’s dick.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/157 "2012-05-24T15:04:14Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> I wondered how she was going to shit on someone’s dick.

How do you get to Carnegie Hall?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/158 "2012-05-24T15:33:59Z")

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Sodomy, kid. _Sodomy_!

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/159 "2012-05-24T16:34:17Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Welp, that confirms it. I am invisible.
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> (Post #98, if anyone can see this)

Sorry, matey. Didn’t read page two.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-diamonds02-and-his-honk-happy-friend/606065/160 "2012-05-24T19:10:39Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> Gotta start reading slower. I wondered how she was going to shit on someone’s dick.

- I \* gotta start reading slower, too. Took me three or four tries to even find the joke. :smack: I’m glad nobody in the office heard me giggle when I did, because I _really_ didn’t want to have to explain that one.

"Okay, see, there’s this human weed … no, not _that_ kind of weed, although that might explain some things … and she’s got this get-rich-quick scheme where she shits on people’s flowerbeds and … wait, that’s not right, hang on a sec … "

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