# I pit DrDeth

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 28, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971 "2021-02-28T19:52:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2085 "2024-10-11T01:37:33Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> You think he’s taken it out since the last time?

Just to breathe. 😃

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2086 "2024-10-11T02:45:07Z")

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No need. He’s got his head so far up there, his nose is exposed to air again. Think of it as an inverse universe version of an ouroboros.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2087 "2024-10-16T08:00:06Z")

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Today, in the American Empire thread, we learned that DrDeth isn’t just ignorant and stubborn, he’s incredibly, incredibly racist.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2088 "2024-10-16T12:01:25Z")

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Did you ever read the first post?

I ask because it’s been well known for a very long time now. Misogynist, too, for what that’s worth.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2089 "2024-10-16T12:39:41Z")

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Heh, apparently the sarcasm was too dry.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2090 "2024-10-16T12:45:06Z")

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He is certainly putting on a show in that thread.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2091 "2024-10-16T12:46:52Z")

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For a lighter, less consequential example of the same behavior, wow, he’s clearly a fan of boarshead products.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2092 "2024-10-16T12:58:56Z")

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It’s almost impressive how comprehensively he managed to be wrong about both Hawai’i and Texas.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2093 "2024-10-16T13:02:25Z")

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He’s always, without exception, extremely and stubbornly wrong about anything historical. That’s his trademark.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2094 "2024-10-16T13:04:32Z")

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Usually it stems from his reading a single book or article by a contrarian historian, and taking that as the gospel truth because it fits what he wants to believe.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2095 "2024-10-16T13:06:44Z")

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His holiest gospel historical truth: the US never ever did wrong.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2096 "2024-10-16T13:20:02Z")

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When a pit of any individual reaches thousands of posts, one wonders what those individuals are really thinking. Do they feel shame and embarrassment at being the object of that level of ridicule or, much like a school shooter, do they revel in such an elevated level of attention? I guess the answer varies by individual though, if someone is the object of more than one pitting, I have to vote for “attention” rather than “embarrassment”.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2097 "2024-10-16T13:28:09Z")

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Nah, I think in DrDerp’s case it isn’t for the attention, but he’s a genuinely jingoistic, racist know-it-all contrarian and a prime example for the Dunning-Kruger effect.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2098 "2024-10-16T13:47:33Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Usually it stems from his reading a single book or article by a contrarian historian, and taking that as the gospel truth because it fits what he wants to believe.

Yeah, I think that’s right. He simply refuses to listen to reason.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2099 "2024-10-16T14:29:46Z")

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@DrDeth is a fountain of misinformation and falsehoods, often doubling and tripling down on nonfactual claims and obviously specious arguments. He is especially profligate in [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-american-empire-begin/1008724/57) but it is a general truism that wherever he posts there will be a string of easily fact-checked errors and unsupportable assertions. From whence does he source his broad array of fabulations? [WikiPrank](https://www.wikiprank.org/)? [GPT-4](https://futurism.com/ai-systems-lie-deceive)? Facebook? [PIDOOMA](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PIDOOMA)?

Stranger

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2100 "2024-10-16T14:54:08Z")

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But he’s certain! How can you doubt his certainty? He’s so sure about it!

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2101 "2024-10-16T14:59:34Z")

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What bugs me most is that he delivers his “facts” in a convincing manner—details, context, dates, etc. Then ten people come in with some variation of “that is 100% wrong,” with cites to support it.

That’s why I always look to see who’s posting. I realize in isolation that’s a logical fallacy, but it’s much more efficient to assume certain sources are wrong.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2102 "2024-10-16T15:20:39Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Heh, apparently the sarcasm was too dry.

But with a pleasant vanilla aroma? I’ll admit tone is difficult to gauge sometimes online.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2103 "2024-10-16T15:41:57Z")

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His facts come straight from his brain…

… unfortunately, his head is jammed so far up his ass that they have to be rectally extracted.

He earned his place as the only person on my ignore list.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2104 "2024-10-16T17:07:33Z")

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I imagine our OP is aware of his Guest of DisHonor’s longstanding presence here in the Pit. Generally for the same sorts of fake facts, unwillingness to back down once caught, and just general pig-ignorance once a mistake has been made.

For our collective reading pleasure:  
~2100 posts starting in year 2021 and extending up through an hour ago as I type. Keeping up a ~2-post per day average for ~3-1/2 years is some kind of achievement for a thread complaining about one person’s behavior.

> [@I pit DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971):
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> DrDeth is a fuckin jackass I know he’s unlikely to see this, but on the off chance he does, [you’re one of the most impervious-to-reason dumbasses I’ve ever had the misfortune of conversing with](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-got-woke-and-thats-good-because-you-should-have-all-been-playing-that-way-or-not-if-you-didnt-prefer/933114/355). I only regret that I gave you as much of my time as I did.

32 posts from 2009, then revived in 2020, proving he’s a _very_ slow learner:

> [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth/486452):
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> Some people are just immune to reason and facts. DrDeth, you really need a lesson in common sense. You insist there is political persecution in Hong Kong but you are unable to cite a single example of such political persecution. None. Zero. Many people who know about Hong Kong because we have traveled or lived there have told you you are wrong and yet you persist in you irrational and unfounded assertions. In [this thread about Hong Kong](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=501398) DrDeth just cannot let reality overcome his prejudice and…

And another from 2008 indicating the same inability to read and comprehend the cites he finds:

> [@DrDeth and politicized inanities](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-and-politicized-inanities/465798):
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> In this [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10257576&posted=1#post10257576), DrDeth issues this tripeful bullshit waste of space: “Even when he massacred the Black Union soldiers?” In reference to Nathon Bedford Forrest. Forrest’s morality was not the issue. It was not even tangentially related to the thread at hand. And I am pissed. This is yet another crapful threadshitting. The comment added nothing and was not even meant as serious debate. It was “Fuck You!” disguised as commentary, with no other purpose but to disput the debate. We’ve had threads ab…

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