# I pit DrDeth **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 28, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971 "2021-02-28T19:52:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 109
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2165 "2025-01-16T23:24:05Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I’ve been busy and didn’t right a clear post at all I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2166 "2025-01-17T01:03:28Z")
If DrDeth isn’t the poster child for “more trouble than they’re worth”, I don’t know who is. None of us is perfect of course, but every time I see this individual pop into a thread, I leave because I know it’s turning to shit and there’s no point continuing. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2167 "2025-01-17T01:28:41Z")
I don’t see a mod note against him in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2168 "2025-01-17T01:37:19Z")
I didn’t either. There were notes against a couple of other people though. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2169 "2025-01-17T02:40:52Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > If DrDeth isn’t the poster child for “more trouble than they’re worth”, I don’t know who is. > > None of us is perfect of course, but every time I see this individual pop into a thread, I leave because I know it’s turning to shit and there’s no point continuing. Yep, he’s still the only sumbitch on my ignore list, but that doesn’t help because as soon as he posts, all remaining posts are either _incredibly_ patient Dopers correcting his dogged insistence in his own version of reality, or buried in same. Completely ruins nearly every thread he posts in. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2170 "2025-01-17T02:55:01Z")
I may have misremembered, or he brought up the same arguments in a different thread. I can’t search for it today or tomorrow though. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2171 "2025-01-17T03:14:12Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I may have misremembered, or he brought up the same arguments in a different thread. I would not be surprised, he has his bugbears. (Given his reverence for Gygax, there may be **literal** bugbears.) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2172 "2025-01-17T05:13:42Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Wait, that’s a flaggable offense? It is for someone who’s been repeatedly warned and even suspended for exactly that pattern of behaviour. It goes in the “more trouble than they’re worth” bucket, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2173 "2025-01-17T06:00:07Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > No, it was because I think he was modded about this specifically. Sorry, I’ve been busy and didn’t right a clear post at all. Eh, I probably should have put a /s at the end of my post, I made the classic internet mistake of assuming everyone will see that it was sarcasm just because I knew that it was meant to be read that way. But I’d be ecstatic if he were banned from any topic involving history, the military, or military history, since nearly all he ever does in those is arguing old arguments that have already repeatedly been disproven. Anything not already long disproven is just some new batshit insanity he’s arguing for the first time and will continue to insist upon arguing in the thread long after he’s been proven wrong. And in many future treads. No sarcasm in this. I’m sure others here can add their own favorite categories they’d like to see him not jump in a take giant thread shits in. So yeah, walking definition of “more trouble than they’re worth”. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2174 "2025-01-17T07:09:41Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > I’m sure others here can add their own favorite categories they’d like to see him not jump in a take giant thread shits in. In D&D threads, he can be just a normal contributive poster most of the time, and then the worst caricature of an old grognard you can picture for a stretch. So it’s not like he’s _always_ insufferable. Just that when he is, he’s really, really insufferable (see the OP). Multiply that by his range of topics, and he’s always being insufferable _somewhere_. When he isn’t on his regularly scheduled suspension, that is. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2175 "2025-01-17T07:46:58Z")
For the record, I find the language of **Aspenglow** ’s mod note (appropriate as it was) in the “Slavery didn’t actually exist in the south” very telling. Explicitly that DD gets some laser-focus on a specific detail and drags the whole thread to the side because they’re unwilling to let it go, even if it was only mentioned (as it was in that thread) tangentially to the main point. The whole Gaiman thing also had elements of it: when I took him to task, he seemed to allow that Gaiman was a sexual predator (a direct quote) but wasn’t a rapist, and when I pressed him on the difference, there was no response. Since that was explicitly a no go in the last 30 day suspension… > [@DrDeth Suspended 30 Days redux](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-suspended-30-days-redux/997661/1): > > Don’t take threads off-topic, especially on nitpicking the meaning of a word or phrase. If it is important to you; split the topic off using the Discourse tool and argue your point in the new thread. If you need help with this, one of the mods, or any of several other posters, could help you. Let any of us know if you’d like help with this. So yeah, I’m sorry to say, same thing, different day. DD - if you’re reading the thread, seriously, take a break for a week. Calm down. You’re going down the same rut and you need to break it before you make the mods take action. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2176 "2025-01-17T11:11:59Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > But I’d be ecstatic if he were banned from any topic involving history, the military, or military history, since nearly all he ever does in those is arguing old arguments that have already repeatedly been disproven. Anything not already long disproven is just some new batshit insanity he’s arguing for the first time and will continue to insist upon arguing in the thread long after he’s been proven wrong. And in many future treads. In addition to the rule about “Topics that have been argued to death ad-neauseaum”, there should be another rule about “Topics argued by DrDeth ad-nauseam.” Of course it could only be applied to him, because it would effectively stop conversation on the board if it were applied to everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2177 "2025-01-17T14:22:20Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > For the record, I find the language of **Aspenglow** ’s mod note (appropriate as it was) in the “Slavery didn’t actually exist in the south” very telling. That thread was bound to be an utter shit show from the start. I have the OP on ignore for being a general dumbass and frankly I think _they_ are trolling with their double-feint _“I’m just asking questions” (feint one) about whether any of you have heard if “people are talking about” (feint 2) this incredibly fucking racist argument that I will now offer up uncritically to the board_." I put the entire thread on mute yesterday, but unless DrD is actually making that incredibly fucking racist argument himself (that there supposedly was no slavery at the time of the US Civil War), I’d say he could _almost_ be forgiven for being taken in (alongside a number of other posters who I would have credited with more sense than DrD) by a fucking troll. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2178 "2025-01-17T14:50:44Z")
It’s unworkable so this isn’t a serious suggestion, but I’d love a rule that when some dumbass has an OP that starts with some form of “I heard that [some stupid shit],” no one can answer until the person identifies exactly where they heard this and from whom. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2179 "2025-01-17T14:56:05Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > …no one can answer until the person identifies exactly where they heard this and from whom. God, that would be a _dream_. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2180 "2025-01-17T16:28:01Z")
“They” told me. [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6z63JEWQAIN6XL?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6z63JEWQAIN6XL?format=jpg&name=900x900) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2181 "2025-01-17T17:31:45Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > It’s unworkable so this isn’t a serious suggestion, but I’d love a rule that when some dumbass has an OP that starts with some form of “I heard that [some stupid shit],” no one can answer until the person identifies exactly where they heard this and from whom. I will say that when I went in to skim that thread to see what caused this latest discussion, the OP looked like trouble to start with. It reminds me of the film _Raising Arizona_, where Sam McMurray’s asshole character “Glen” tells one of his awful jokes, where a man walks into a bar with a big old pile of shit in his hands and says, “Look what I almost stepped in.” That OP is the discussion board equivalent of carrying a pile of shit into a gathering to show people how awful it is (or even worse, to ask people if it smells bad), and it’s to nobody’s benefit. > [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > a fucking troll. Indeed. In Glen’s racist joke, the guy with the pile of shit is too stupid to know better, but in the case of that thread I’m sure that the OP _did_ know better. Not that any of that excuses DD’s subsequent act of virtually grabbing a handful of the OP’s shit to shove in everyone’s faces repeatedly. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2182 "2025-01-21T04:32:50Z")
> [@7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5234): > > This will cost him the Police vote. > > And you know, if he had only pardoned those guilty of trespassing, it wouldnt have bothered me. I’m done defending him. I’ve tried, I’ve made excuses, but no. I still don’t think he’s _trolling_ but he’s too far gone in too many different areas for me to try anymore and I’m tired of it. It was bad enough when he wouldn’t explain the difference in acceptability between “sexual predator” and “rapist” in reference to Gaiman, but I just CAN’T see any potential good in far too many of his arguments at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2183 "2025-01-23T22:34:25Z")
> [@7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5234): > > This will cost him the Police vote. > [@7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5273): > > [Police union that endorsed Trump blasts Jan. 6 pardons](https://www.axios.com/2025/01/22/police-union-trump-jan-6-pardons) > > > [@](#): > > > > President [Trump’s](https://www.axios.com/politics-policy/donald-trump) [near-total pardon](https://www.axios.com/2025/01/21/trump-pardons-jan-6-defendants) of Jan. 6 rioters was denounced by the Fraternal Order of Police, the largest police union in the U.S., and the International Association of Chiefs of Police on Tuesday. . . . > > > > - “When perpetrators of crimes, especially serious crimes, are not held fully accountable, it sends a dangerous message that the consequences for attacking law enforcement are not severe, potentially emboldening others to commit similar acts of violence,” the unions said. > > They are just objecting to one action, not to the Trump administration as a whole. But I guess it’s a start > [@7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5277): > > Exactly as i predicted. Are you for real? Stranger ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2184 "2025-01-23T23:03:55Z")
What’s your vote: did he intentionally use data about cop political affiliation in a misleading way, or did he not bother to read his cite? Either option fits his M.O. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971.md?page=108) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971.md?page=110)