# I pit DrDeth **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 28, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971 "2021-02-28T19:52:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 116
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2305 "2025-06-06T18:54:55Z")
(Insert recessive gene joke here) ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2306 "2025-06-06T20:54:13Z")
Also in the pronunciation thread, he writes this gem: > This is the reason why we spell Rhythm instead of Rime. English pedants wanting English to follow latin rules, But when I spell it like it should be (which is listed as an alternate spelling) posters here gave me a hard time. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2307 "2025-06-06T21:02:51Z")
Actually that post confused me. Rhythm and “rime” are, I think, unrelated words. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2308 "2025-06-06T21:19:42Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Actually that post confused me. Rhythm and “rime” are, I think, unrelated words Oh, look at Mr. Prescriptivist over here. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2309 "2025-06-06T21:24:08Z")
Well, sure, one we got from French/Latin (which may have gotten it by way of Greek) and the other has Germanic roots but what’s important is that is mere pedantry in the face of DD’s awe inspiring deductive leaps that require only acceptance, not inspection ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2310 "2025-06-06T21:24:48Z")
gud enuf ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2311 "2025-06-06T21:26:49Z")
Or was he intent on comparing rhyme versus rime? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2312 "2025-06-06T21:33:34Z")
I’m sure that was the intent. Another example of the same phenomenon is the spurious “b” in “debt” - Latin-envy > **[Nobody Pronounces the 'B' in 'Debt'](https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/why-is-debt-spelled-like-that)** > > And nobody ever did > _Debt_ is derived through the Middle English word _dette_, from the Old French _dette_ or _dete_. Note the conspicuous absence of “b.” Some scholars in those dark days we refer to as the Middle Ages sure did. They knew that the word had its origin in the Latin word _debitum_, and they thought it should pay homage to that word—and they had the wherewithal to slip a “b” into both the English and French versions of the word. Despite the fact that the “b” had never been pronounced in either language, the spellings became established. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2313 "2025-06-06T21:58:58Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Well, to be fair to him, he may be too stupid to realize his father was bullshitting him his whole life, and he can’t see the impossibility of the stories even when pointed out to him. > > Well, no one else knows if he was the one lying or his father, but given his MO, it seems clear . . . Well, thanks to my friend who let me know you are back, spreading your cowardly, ignorant racist lies again. Look, I said my Father was in WW2- in the Pacific. He joined on Dec 8 1941 in the Philippines, got sick, and was shipped back home- then was sent back to the pacific- New Guinea and Philippines, etc. . He got the Philippine Defense medal and the Philippine Liberation Medal- both basically participation trophies. (Plus of course all the normal fruit salad of various Fronts= Asiatic–Pacific Campaign Medal, Good Conduct, etc etc). You called my Fathers claim of having both those rather common medal "stolen valor’- like when some dude claims he got the Congressional Medal of Honor, but spent his time peeling spuds. No one claims he got some participation trophy medal who didnt. Of course you made that claim here in the BBQ Pit as you are a coward. So I came here, and proved you wrong- with cites. No, not just MacArthur and his staff got out (they went by PT boat then airplane). The entire "Army Air corps "got out- they flew out. Why not? Some other few service members were taken also- if you watch “They were Expendable” (sorta based on real life) the two PT boat skippers were also flown out (you can verify that on Wikipedia- the real heroes the two stars were based on). In fact I gave you a link to a whole fucking BOOK on the subject, plus other cites. But of course, being the cowardly little shitweasel you are- you didnt apologize. But you did shut up about it for a while- but here you are back again, spreading your cowardly racist lies- not about me- but about my Family and Father- which takes being an asshole to a whole new level. Yes, I called you a cowardly little shitweasel- but I would never insult your family. Yeah, my Dad served in WW2. Not in the front lines, but as a NCO in a Headquarters unit, typing things and running orders to the front at times. Not a special hero- he won no medals for bravery or combat- but he just did his part- along with 12 million others- all of whom were heroes too. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2314 "2025-06-06T21:59:03Z")
I doubt their wisdom in doing that. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2315 "2025-06-06T22:20:32Z")
Where’s the racism? I mean, no one’s called you an Orc . . . yet. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2316 "2025-06-06T23:17:11Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I think you’ve proved that he secretly _does_ read his pit thread. Who needs indirect evidence when the Guest of Honor outs himself? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2317 "2025-06-06T23:24:36Z")
I know, I thought he specifically said he blocked the pit from his feed. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2318 "2025-06-06T23:30:58Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Where’s the racism? He makes heroes out of the Imperial Japanese during WW2, which is like making heroes out of Hitler and the SS. is that being a racist? You decide. But he has proven himself a liar right in these pages, and also a coward. I mean, when I first said my Dad had those two participation medals, he could have remarked that he thought that was unlikely as only MacArthur got out, then i would have shown cites showing the "Army Air Corps’ also got out (my dad was in that branch). But instead- like the cowardly little lying shitweasel he is, he came to the Pit and accused my father of “stolen valor”. Btw- I have in a footlocker my dad’s medals, not that any of them are that rare or unusual. > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Who needs indirect evidence when the Guest of Honor outs himself? I came here as one of my buddies told me that the lying cowardly shitweasel (my own words) had come back spreading his lies again. That poster thought TB was an asshole for attacking someone’s father. I agree. Now I will go back to avoiding this cesspool of cowards and liars. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2319 "2025-06-06T23:51:54Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Back in the 80s, when he got in Doc Brown’s DeLorean after the Iranians attacked and hijinks ensued, he couldn’t resist his mom’s charms. > > (That’s one way that could have been accomplished.) Funny enough, that is actually the precise scenario I had in mind. Great minds think alike. > [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > Libyans, I think. > > This is 100% my bad. Actually, it was the Libyans in the prime universe, but came the Iranians in the secondary universe. Kind of like how the Twin Pine Mall became the Lone Pine Mall. (Not really, but it could work…) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2320 "2025-06-07T02:36:14Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I know, I thought he specifically said he blocked the pit from his feed. He did. He lied. And made up some asinine excuse. Kids: Don’t lie like that lying liar. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2321 "2025-06-07T03:21:26Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > The entire "Army Air corps "got out- This is demonstrably false. You have never known what you are talking about in relation the military. It would behoove you to shut up about it. > [@DrDeth](#): > > typing things and running orders to the front I wonder why you don’t realize this is a story. > [@DrDeth](#): > > he won no medals for bravery or combat Or this. > [@DrDeth](#): > > Army Air Corps’ also got out (my dad was in that branch And this. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2322 "2025-06-07T03:23:14Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I came here as one of my buddies told me that the lying cowardly shitweasel (my own words) had come back spreading his lies again. You don’t have to make your lies so obvious. We all know you don’t have any buddies. Much less ones reading your pitting to inform you of things they find particularly egregious being said about you. And fuck dude, either stop taking your meds or up the dosage. @TokyoBayer “makes heroes out of the Imperial Japanese during WW2”? That’s straight up delusional, even for you. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2323 "2025-06-07T03:43:57Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > And fuck dude, either stop taking your meds or up the dosage. @TokyoBayer “makes heroes out of the Imperial Japanese during WW2”? Maybe _start_ taking them? Hey, I’m a glutton for online punishment and assaults on logic. Let’s see if the thread guest of dishonor posts something even tangentially related to proof of that besmirching of @TokyoBayer . ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/2324 "2025-06-07T05:14:31Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Hey, I’m a glutton for online punishment and assaults on logic. Let’s see if the thread guest of dishonor posts something even tangentially related to proof of that besmirching of @TokyoBayer Yeah, I don’t recall posting anything that could be construed as making heroes of the Imperial Japanese during WW2, but it should be pretty easy for him to cite it. > [@DrDeth](#): > > Look, I said my Father was in WW2- in the Pacific. He joined on Dec 8 1941 in the Philippines, got sick, and was shipped back home- then was sent back to the pacific- New Guinea and Philippines, etc. . Oh my god. We’re not rehashing this again. It was far too much work the last time and tedious as hell for anyone who actually has a real life, and isn’t obsessed with all things Pacific War. In brief, I wouldn’t have given a shit, but your stories over the years just didn’t make sense. Without all the boring details, over the years, you implied a special relationship between your father and MacArthur. Your stories keep changing and not only are the completely implausible, they contradicted themselves. Now you have a new shift in your narrative. Before it was that your father was working as a member of MacArthur’s staff, but today you are claiming that he was in the “Army Air Corp”. This is interesting not only for the rookie mistake of getting the name of the organization wrong, although at least you didn’t call it the Air Force. Mistake #1 It shouldn’t have been the [Army Air Corp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Corps). > [@](#): > > The **United States Army Air Corps** ( **USAAC** ) was the [aerial warfare](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_warfare) service component of the [United States Army](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army) **between 1926 and 1941.** My bolding That organization was superceded by the [United States Army Air Forces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Forces) (USAAF or AAF) > [@](#): > > The **United States Army Air Forces** ( **USAAF** or **AAF** )[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Forces#cite_note-:0-2) was the major land-based [aerial warfare](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_warfare) service component of the [United States Army](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army) and _de facto_ aerial warfare service branch of the United States[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Forces#cite_note-legacy-3) during and immediately after [World War II](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II) (1941–1947). **It was created on 20 June 1941** as successor to the previous [United States Army Air Corps](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Corps) and is the direct predecessor of the [United States Air Force](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force) My bolding about the creation date. Mistake #2 Except, the real answer was the [Far East Air Force](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_East_Air_Force_(United_States)) The **Far East Air Force** (FEAF) was the military aviation organization of the [United States Army](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army) in the [Philippines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines) just prior to and at the beginning of [World War II](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II). [/quote] So was your father in MacArthur’s headquarters by special request of a top general or was he in the FEAF and later the AAF? We aren’t going to go through all your tall tales again. Ain’t going to happen. Suffice to say, the stories are just too incredulous for them all to be true. Either your father was making stuff up, or you are. Or as a good friend just said: > [@Monty](#): > > It could be _A_; it could be _B_; it could be _Both A and B_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971.md?page=115) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971.md?page=117)