# I pit DrDeth

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 28, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971 "2021-02-28T19:52:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/804 "2021-05-07T04:34:31Z")

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yep. du-oh. _withOUT me having to call your father a liar even once._ 😳

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/805 "2021-05-07T04:45:58Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And I never knew my idiosyncrasies were _that_ annoying.

This thread didn’t clue you in? Anyway, the spelling stuff was just the icing on the cake. Once your posting habits and argumentation style bring you into disrepute, even the minor annoyances become magnified. Plus, you were so stubbornly _insistent_ on those oddities, which were used by no one else on the board – at least, not systematically.

Anyway, I’m not trying to pile on here. Your efforts at normalization are appreciated, and as I said earlier, I think the continuing pile-ons against you for past transgressions are rather unfair.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/806 "2021-05-07T11:55:12Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And I never knew my idiosyncrasies were _that_ annoying

So, hold up. I didn’t start this because you write “enuf.” I started this because, in an otherwise interesting discussion about the racist history of D&D, your engagement was simultaneously ignorant and condescending, which is a super annoying combination.

The “idiosyncrasy” that I hope to see you work on is this tendency to not pay attention to what others are saying, this tendency not to be willing to absorb new information and perspectives, this tendency to condescend to folks while also saying real dumb things. If you work on that, I’ll be pleased.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/807 "2021-05-07T12:04:44Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> I keep seeing, “D replying,” at the bottom of this thread. I can’t wait.

> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> > [@DrDeth](#):
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> > Why did they request Dad back? I have no idea nor did he. Maybe his doorknob polishing skills
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> Are you sure you want to say this? About your dad?

Are you implying something about the D? 😃

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/808 "2021-05-07T12:10:47Z")

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While I’m no fan of “the D”, could we drop the “hur hur polishing the doorknob” thing please? There are more cogent issues to focus on.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/809 "2021-05-07T12:21:21Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> The “idiosyncrasy” that I hope to see you work on is this tendency to not pay attention to what others are saying,

Our good Dr not paying attention to what other posters are actually saying about his posting habits and not absorbing their actual perspective?

The irony inherent in this post is palpable

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/810 "2021-05-07T12:37:09Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> The “idiosyncrasy” that I hope to see you work on is this tendency to not pay attention to what others are saying, this tendency not to be willing to absorb new information and perspectives, this tendency to condescend to folks while also saying real dumb things. If you work on that, I’ll be pleased.

For reference, I just reread the first fifty or so posts in this thread. Maybe ignore the bullshit about your dad from the last hundred posts or so, and focus on the beginning of the thread to see the _substantial stuff_ that it’s be super helpful for you to work on.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/811 "2021-05-07T14:17:06Z")

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For the record, I don’t have any problem with Dr. D’s alternate spellings. None of them have prevented me from understanding his intended message, and I don’t mind when somebody distinguishes themselves from the crowd. That’s why I never had a problem with Shodan’s “Regards,” and can’t understand why it got so many panties twisted.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/812 "2021-05-07T14:31:26Z")

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I think it was LHOD that gave a really GREAT explanation of why “creative spelling” is so FUCKING AGGRAVATING to a lot of people (myself _very much_ included). And when you add that to the absolute aggressive mulishness on so many disparate subjects, and it just makes some folks want to reach through the monitor and throttle somebody.

The Shodan “regards” hate I never understood either; sign-offs/signatures are not something that I dislike, and some are absolutely amazing (looking at you, @Tripler ).

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/813 "2021-05-07T14:37:44Z")

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Thank you very much! It’s something I take a subtle little creative pride in. I aim to please.

Tripler  
Sometimes it’s like pissin’ into the wind, but at least it’s an _attempt_ at direction.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/814 "2021-05-07T17:34:28Z")

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> [@Kron](#):
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> And when you add that to the absolute aggressive mulishness on so many disparate subjects, and it just makes some folks want to reach through the monitor and throttle somebody.

I put DD on ignore when I was in a P&E thread. I’d made a mistake in a post and corrected myself. He then corrected my mistake days later (after the thread had long moved on) and needled me about it. I replied that I’d already corrected myself and he kept at it to the point where I questioned his ability to understand anything I was saying and got a mod note. I said fuck it, dropped out of the discussion, and put him on ignore.

He’s an aggressive asshole. **He’s a bad person.** I don’t think he’s redeemable and can’t wait until his sorry ass finally gets banned. I’m not in favor of helping him mend his ways. Fuck him.

And for the record, I’ve only ever had 2 people on ignore on this board in over a decade. He’s one. I don’t usually do that. He’s a special kind of awful.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/815 "2021-05-07T17:46:59Z")

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I don’t think he’s a bad person, in the sense of being malicious, deliberately seeking disruption and harm. I think he _is_ disruptive, and highly irritating, but not, like, evil or whatever.

Per my long post earlier (linked here), I think he’s _dysfunctional._ But I pull up short from anything like a specific long-distance diagnosis.

> [@I pit DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drdeth-is-a-fuckin-jackass/933971/751):
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> I agree completely, but I will also confess that I have had basically the same thought. @DrDeth reminds me very strongly of a guy I used to work with — reasonably intelligent, but obsessed with being perceived as smarter than he was, constantly barging in on office conversations to assure everyone he had facts and opinions on every topic; quick to draw conclusions, and even quicker to fixate on them, with no ability to adjust his thinking once he’d made a decision; incapable of reading the subt…

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/816 "2021-05-07T18:07:47Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> I don’t think he’s a bad person, in the sense of being malicious, deliberately seeking disruption and harm. I think he _is_ disruptive, and highly irritating, but not, like, evil or whatever.

We can agree to disagree. I don’t think he’s _evil_ but I do see him as malicious.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/817 "2021-05-07T19:16:00Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> > [@MrDibble](#):
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> > I’m leery of internet diagnoses of this kind of thing.
> 
> I agree completely, but I will also confess that I have had basically the same thought. @DrDeth reminds me very strongly of a guy I used to work with — reasonably intelligent, but obsessed with being perceived as smarter than he was, constantly barging in on office conversations to assure everyone he had facts and opinions on every topic; quick to draw conclusions, and even quicker to fixate on them, with no ability to adjust his thinking once he’d made a decision; incapable of reading the subtleties of social situations, and no understanding that people’s emotional relationship to their thoughts and opinions is just as important, in terms of getting along with others, as the bare facts being expressed in the conversation; and so on. This fast-processing information-first approach made him a very effective IT specialist, but he had difficulty making and keeping friends; everyone in the office held him at arm’s length except when they really needed his (narrow) expertise.
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> Looking back, this guy was _clearly_ what we would today call “neuroatypical,” but I hesitate to draw any more specific conclusion than that, even though I knew him pretty well. And as strongly as the subject of this thread reminds me of that guy, as much as I want to draw a connection and make an assumption about what’s driving his behavior, I tell myself I’ve never met him in person, and that it would be irresponsible and uncharitable to try to impose my constrained guesses on him. I also think back to that other guy, and however much he drove all of us crazy, I remember the moment I realized how frustrating it must have been just to _be him_ — he was clearly wired in a particular way, and was endlessly irritated that the world refused to cooperate with his (off-center) understanding of it. From that moment, I tried to be more patient and sympathetic, but I still didn’t want to be friends with him.

So you’ve met my brother? Huh, small world.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/818 "2021-05-09T13:33:26Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I think the whole attacks on your dad are stupid.

I don’t recall you being involved in WWII discussions here, so really, how are you to know what is stupid or not? Most people here all want the same thing, for DD knock off that annoying shit he does in thread after thread after thread.

I don’t care about him writing “a apple” but I can recognize that other people are frustrated with different aspects of his posting without feeling the need to argue that only my annoyances are valid.

As someone (maybe even you) pointed out, the reason he’s getting flack for his idiosyncrasies is because he’s an annoying poster.

DD is getting his father brought into this thread specifically because of his utilization of his father in WWII threads in attempts to trump experts’ judgments in hijacks he initiates.

One common complain is his introduction of secret insiders into arguments where they can’t be impeached, and that’s the role his father plays in WWII discussions.

That is the summary. Most people aren’t interested in the details, but that’s the only way to show why he’s receiving this treatment. It’s not from the distant past. There was a thread last year with a many-page hijack which he started and continued to argue against everyone, using his father again and again.

TLDR version:

As I said in my deconstruction of his various claims, there is a controversy over MacArthur’s apparent mental breakdown after Pear Harbor was attacked (which occurred 2:00 am Philippine time) and the 10 hours or so before Japan subsequently attacked the Philippines.

Professional scholars have noted that breakdowns among commanders are common. It’s been pointed out of a prominent historian that Mac had conflicting loyalties as the commander of the US Army forces as well as Field Marshall of the Philippine Islands. Whatever, the point isn’t to argue specifics in a thread not about WWII as it’s boring as fuck for those who don’t care. But some background is needed.

Many, many times, DD will hijack a WWII thread to introduce his father’s theory. This was him in an August thread last year about _Midway_, not about how America got into the war.

> [@WWII: Battle of Midway...why couldn't the Japanese have pressed on and captured the island?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwii-battle-of-midway-why-couldnt-the-japanese-have-pressed-on-and-captured-the-island/917029/72):
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> My Dad, who served directly with MacArthur, and has the Phillipines Defense, Liberation and Independence medals, swore that Mac had been _ordered_ to be ‘surprised by the Japs’ so that their attack on him would seem more perfidious and thus more of a reason for going to war. It does explain Doug’s total lack of preparation, even given almost a days warning.

At which point, he now hijacks the thread into multiple-page “discussion,” which should be familiar to anyone who has engaged with him in any thread, consisting of many other posters pointing out how ridiculous his position is, and he retorts with absurdities, “no one can prove this didn’t happen,” “it’s still a mystery.” with people telling him:

> [@WWII: Battle of Midway...why couldn't the Japanese have pressed on and captured the island?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwii-battle-of-midway-why-couldnt-the-japanese-have-pressed-on-and-captured-the-island/917029/90):
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> Quite frankly, the only way this theory could be less plausible would be if it included some aliens.

> [@WWII: Battle of Midway...why couldn't the Japanese have pressed on and captured the island?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwii-battle-of-midway-why-couldnt-the-japanese-have-pressed-on-and-captured-the-island/917029/83):
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> DrDeth, I’m sure you’ll forgive us if we accept all historical evidence over your dad’s opinion.
> 
> It’s also completely illogical even on its face.

but he will never quit.

He attacks other posters by using his father:

> [@WWII: Battle of Midway...why couldn't the Japanese have pressed on and captured the island?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwii-battle-of-midway-why-couldnt-the-japanese-have-pressed-on-and-captured-the-island/917029/91):
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> Sure. Many experts on WW2 have asked why Mac blew it and other experts have written exhaustive books on what the Americans knew before Pearl- but you know more than they do, of course. And- i dont suppose you even _met_ Doug, did you? Let alone served under him for five years?

I’m not going to quote the whole damn thread and the many times DD is arguing this stupid hijack of an otherwise interesting thread. But in it, he repeatedly implies a special relationship between his father and “Doug” or the other players.

> [@WWII: Battle of Midway...why couldn't the Japanese have pressed on and captured the island?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwii-battle-of-midway-why-couldnt-the-japanese-have-pressed-on-and-captured-the-island/917029/87):
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> All Roosevelt had to do is tell Mac- “Hey, the Japs might attack soon- act surprised”. Only a couple people had to be in on it. again _"Whether MacArthur’s paralysis during these critical nine hours was due to indecision or the restraining influence of President Quezon, or perhaps a combination of both, has never been satisfactorily explained by historians_ ." But my Dad was actually there. In the Philippines, and later with Mac in the Pacific.

> [@WWII: Battle of Midway...why couldn't the Japanese have pressed on and captured the island?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwii-battle-of-midway-why-couldnt-the-japanese-have-pressed-on-and-captured-the-island/917029/89):
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> Sure, My dad wasnt right there with Mac during those nine hours. But the aircrew on the B17s that took Mac the rest of the way were close buddies of my Dad. And for some strange reason, even tho my dad was “lucky” enuf to get Malaria and be flown out before the islands collapsed\*, he was pulled back to Macs command unit “by personal request”- _name withheld._

See, you are doing to freak out because he wrote “tho” and “enof” where I’m deeply unhappy that he’s implying a special place in history with “he was pulled back to Macs command unit “by personal request”- _name withheld._”

Again, as Little\_Nemo says:

> [@WWII: Battle of Midway...why couldn't the Japanese have pressed on and captured the island?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwii-battle-of-midway-why-couldnt-the-japanese-have-pressed-on-and-captured-the-island/917029/92):
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> No, I’m the guy who’s agreeing with the experts. You’re the guy who’s claiming he knows more than they do.

So this is why we’re giving him shit and I’m mocking him for this “special knowledge.” This is not the first WWII thread he’s hijacked, as anyone who has ever encountered him on the Dope can imagine.

All I want (and I’m sure that a lot of other WWII buffs agree) is that he drop this stupid hijack of WWII threads and stop claiming a greater sense of importance of his father’s role. If his father served in WWII, then great, wonderful. We are appreciative of the service, but stop the fucking hijacks.

In the latest WWII thread, which was active up to last month, DD finally got overly enthusiastic about his father’s war record and made the claims which can be shown to not be realistic.

His story simply doesn’t make sense. He claims his father was a civilian on December 8th, 1941, arriving as a civilian aircrew for Boeing. What was a manufacturer doing sending a plane into an expected war zone? This itself is improbable but not completely impossible. But it’s only the first of many increasingly more improbable as well as virtually impossible steps. How many of things can happen to one person?

Father volunteers. OK, he obviously can’t be sent back for basic training, and rather than the logical step of being assigned to the US Far East Air Force where his training as an experience flight crew (if that is accurate) would be useful, he is placed as a raw recruit in GHQ where – despite knowing nothing of military life – not only doesn’t get underfoot or cause problems in one of the most chaotic periods of US military history, he somehow gets noticed by the senior officer staff and later in the war he was “pulled back to Macs command unit “by personal request”- _name withheld._”

His latest “cite” in this thread is equally problematic and as is typical of DD, it actually hurts his case more that it helps. He’s claiming that his father’s medical evacuation from the Philippines was arranged by his father’s B-17 “buddies”. Many problems with this.

First, the B-17s were 600 miles away in Minadao and there was a complete blockage in place. How does he get down to Minadao? I already demonstrated that was impossible for a raw recruit. How does someone suffering from malaria travel there?

How does he become buddies with the bomber crew in the two or three days before they are withdrawn Luzon?

The longer he is in GHQ, the more impossible it is for him to get out. As a civilian-recruit, how can he get from Luzon to Midanao? Everyone was bugging out December 11 - 12, three to four days after he arrives in PI.

By December 25, it was completely impossible.

He’s a civilian on December 8th. All forms of escape are essentially gone by December 12. But he’s in GHQ for (not stated) days, enough to get noticed by _name withheld_ for doing some sort of outstanding job.

As I wrote last time, there were 24,000 American and Filipino defenders with Malaria at the time. Why could he leave? Whose naked pictures did his father have? It doesn’t make sense.

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> My Dad’s “conspiracy theory”? As he said, and as I posted- that was " _scuttlebutt"_ . But apparently _Mr Big Time Expert who never wore a uniform in his life_ doesn’t even know what “scuttlebutt” is. Water cooler rumors. My dad liked that rumor sure, but he always said it was pure 100% scuttlebutt. " _special insider knowledge of what would have been one of the greatest secrets of WWII."_ was indeed- a water cooler rumor. Nothing more. Now sure, no one knows why the hell Mac screwed up and I guess it could be true, but as I said before- _very unlikely but not impossible._

I enthusiastically agree that someone doesn’t understand the term “scuttlebutt,” but sadly, it may not be someone who never wore a uniform who was confused.

As I quoted earlier, this is what DD stated in August last year:

> [@WWII: Battle of Midway...why couldn't the Japanese have pressed on and captured the island?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwii-battle-of-midway-why-couldnt-the-japanese-have-pressed-on-and-captured-the-island/917029/72):
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> My Dad, who served directly with MacArthur, and has the Phillipines Defense, Liberation and Independence medals, swore that Mac had been _ordered_ to be ‘surprised by the Japs’ so that their attack on him would seem more perfidious and thus more of a reason for going to war. It does explain Doug’s total lack of preparation, even given almost a days warning.

One of these statements is not like the other. Could it be the one which suggests a personal relationship with “Doug”.

DD’s story is evolving from when he wanted his father to be seen as a insider, an player. All the weasel words now don’t take back the pages of searchable posts. He wrote what he wrote.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/819 "2021-05-09T13:52:15Z")

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Technically, “scuttlebutt” is the water cooler itself. Or, in my – admittedly limited – experience, the water fountain.

The name for the object gave us the name for “rumors”.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/820 "2021-05-09T13:58:16Z")

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Scuttlebutt does mean idle chatter, gossip or rumors. People gather at the water fountain to idly chat. It was a very common Navy term, not so sure about other services.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/821 "2021-05-09T14:00:48Z")

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Another fun Navy term: [this is a “cadillac”.](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41u4Yka4tPL.jpg) Surprising what sticks in one’s head after three decades.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/822 "2021-05-09T14:10:33Z")

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I actually forgot that one. And of course that works well with a swab.

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So that’s the scuttlebut on the origin of the term scuttlebut?

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