# I pit DrDeth

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 28, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971 "2021-02-28T19:52:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 45

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/884 "2021-05-11T16:23:57Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Yeah, it’s not, because an incredibly tedious wank-off has arisen. Glad you’re having fun, though.

Yeah from my perspective you’re the one being tedious. I think TokyoBayer’s historical insights are interesting, and I don’t know for sure if DrDeth is being honest or dishonest, or if his father was being honest or dishonest, or if there’s confused data, or maybe TokyoBayer is wrong, I don’t know enough about the individuals or the history to say for sure, but it seems interesting. The core thing is this is a Pit thread, and one of the things the subject is being pitted for is potentially lying about his dad’s WWII service record to trot out that lie as an argument to advance conspiracy theories in other threads. You may find investigating that claim and whether it is a lie or not “tedious”, but it seems pretty fucking on-point as to what the pit thread is about.

Maybe if you don’t like reading about it you could cry to yourself and/or just not open it? Your cry baby posts every 5 replies about how you don’t want to read anymore about DrDeth’s dad are more annoying than anything I’ve personally observed DrD doing.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/885 "2021-05-11T17:06:09Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> Yeah from my perspective you’re the one being tedious.

All right, y’all have fun then. What’s tedious to me is super-cool to others; I’ve said my piece; I can unsubscribe from my thread. All the best.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/886 "2021-05-11T17:30:54Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I can unsubscribe from my thread.

Huh. You _are_ the OP.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/887 "2021-05-11T18:52:27Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Huh. You _are_ the OP.

Yup. But ownership of threads is dumb, so if I’m the only one finding the “Let’s track down some minor detail that proves DRDETH IS A BIG OLE LIAR ABOUT HIS DADDY” incredibly tedious, I’m happy to unsubscribe and bow out.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/888 "2021-05-11T18:58:37Z")

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Of course, that’s not what it’s about. It’s about the larger picture of him claiming special knowledge and bolstering himself up to always be the expert in all areas. The nitpickiness of the details is a byproduct of challenging him on that behavior.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/889 "2021-05-11T19:02:01Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> It’s about the larger picture of him claiming special knowledge

Or having a friend with special knowledge or a father who has special knowledge or a friend of his father’s who has special knowledge.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/890 "2021-05-11T19:04:01Z")

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Well, yeah, but ultimately it’s about him having special knowledge, sometimes from those sources.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/891 "2021-05-11T19:11:18Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> For my money, **TokyoBayer** ’s post in this thread are very nearly the ideal Pit postings. They contain a wealth of interesting historical detail, and they comprehensively dismantle the dishonest claims of a lying asshole.

Except he is making all that bullshit up, and when caught lying he claims he was not.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/892 "2021-05-11T19:17:42Z")

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Does the phrase “[Streisand effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect)” mean anything to you?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/893 "2021-05-11T20:17:07Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Except he is making all that bullshit up, and when caught lying he claims he was not.

You keep using that word. It does not mean what you think it means.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/894 "2021-05-11T20:31:03Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Or having a friend with special knowledge or a father who has special knowledge or a friend of his father’s who has special knowledge

What if you know the guy from REO Speedwagon who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/895 "2021-05-11T21:05:31Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> What if you know the guy from REO Speedwagon who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another?

Talk is cheap if the story is good.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/896 "2021-05-11T21:23:16Z")

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Yeah, but the tales grow taller on down the line

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/897 "2021-05-11T22:08:28Z")

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DD’s father was just telling me that the other day!

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/898 "2021-05-12T01:04:07Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Yup. But ownership of threads is dumb, so if I’m the only one finding the “Let’s track down some minor detail that proves DRDETH IS A BIG OLE LIAR ABOUT HIS DADDY” incredibly tedious, I’m happy to unsubscribe and bow out.

Why the fuck did you start this thread then? Do you remember who your audience is? Are cynical over-analyzers who may have different reasons from yours for thinking DrD is a jackass so intolerable? Is today contradiction day?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/899 "2021-05-12T01:43:39Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Why the fuck did you start this thread then? Do you remember who your audience is?

My audience, as with every pit thread I’ve ever started, was getting shit off my chest. I’ve never felt a need to win a popularity contest with a thread, and am if anything a little annoyed with this thread because I’ve gotten about 894 reminders that people have posted in it (I’ve turned them off now, which is nice, and I shoulda done that earlier).

As for why I started the thread? DrDeth was being a jackass about D&D and was denying the obvious fact that Gary Gygax did some racist shit. I’m glad other folks care about WW2, and impatient that other folks give a shit about his dad, and resigned to the fact that this thread is now all about the confluence between the two, so unless/until it changes to something I care about, buhbye.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/900 "2021-05-12T01:48:24Z")

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@Left_Hand_of_Dorkness But hadn’t you already unsubscribed and bowed out?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/901 "2021-05-12T10:00:09Z")

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I still get notified of folks mentioning me.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/902 "2021-05-12T10:43:40Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> so unless/until it changes to something I care about, buhbye.

3rd time

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/903 "2021-05-12T12:13:38Z")

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It’s utter hell when you can’t control a thread you started. 😟

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