# I pit DrDeth **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 28, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971 "2021-02-28T19:52:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/102 "2021-03-05T15:37:43Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > > [@BigT](#): > > > > I actually have a bit of a problem with coming off as condescending (as other Dopers will attest) but I’m trying to do better. > > You’re doing a good I think so too. Plus, you are approachable, a huge plus! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/103 "2021-03-05T15:50:15Z")
Oh, the criticals you will see! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/104 "2021-03-05T15:57:36Z")
_Horton Hears a Hobgoblin_ _One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Roll for Initiative_ _The Cat in the Helm of Telepathy_ ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/105 "2021-03-05T15:58:23Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > You know, he promises that, but doesn’t deliver. So would you say @DrDeth is engaged in a… _[ponzi scheme](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-giuliani-and-powell-actually-expect-to-accomplish-through-all-the-court-cases/934137/17)_? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/106 "2021-03-05T16:10:51Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Thank you. I actually have a bit of a problem with coming off as condescending (as other Dopers will attest) but I’m trying to do better. You’ve come a long way. I hope that doesn’t sound condescending. I can only hope I’ve grown as a poster as much as you have. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/107 "2021-03-05T16:17:26Z")
Hah! Sure, by his definition. I think me responding to a post is also a Ponzi scheme, by my own personal definition. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/108 "2021-03-05T16:41:42Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > the absolute certainty of his convictions is unparallelled. This is really it. I actually don’t think he’s a stupid person, compared to the average American at least. I’ve seen him post intelligently. But he absolutely will not be moved from any position, no matter how well refuted or cited. It seems almost pathological. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/109 "2021-03-05T16:56:49Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > It seems almost pathological. Almost? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/110 "2021-03-05T19:56:13Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > > [@ShadowFacts](#): > > > > It seems almost pathological. > > Almost? . It’s a almost pathological response ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/111 "2021-03-05T20:05:44Z")
Curse you guys for pointing out that quirk. 😡 The way I normally read, my eye skips over typos for words like that. Now I won’t be able to not notice. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/112 "2021-03-05T20:28:46Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I can only hope I’ve grown as a poster as much as you have. Personal growth, heck, I’m just glad you came back. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/113 "2021-03-05T20:34:47Z")
It’s a remarkable degree of ideological consistency. DrDeth absolutely refuses to believe that there are such things as structural or institutional racism; the only racist acts or words that exist in the world are those deliberately produced by bad, racist people. This is actually not that uncommon a view in the US, sadly. But obviously the amount of racism in society has decreased dramatically in recent decades. So the logical conclusion of that view is that you have to believe either that the vast majority of people were bad and immoral until quite recent times, or that people 100 years ago weren’t actually any more racist than people today. Usually, when people who deny the existence of structural racism have this pointed out to them, they hem and haw and change the subject. DD is remarkable in that he plows right ahead, picks one of the two indefensibly absurd alternatives and stoutly defends it. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/114 "2021-03-05T20:42:12Z")
Hey, I was just looking at the Doper anniversaries and today is **Dr. Deth’s** twentieth anniversary as a Doper. /random ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/115 "2021-03-07T01:32:20Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > This is really minor, but it’s typical of the mentality and just something else that bugs me. I made the mistake of reading his (current) last post in the Seuss thread, and found these (bolding mine): > > … in being **a anti racist** … > … some of them could be Ok give **a explanatory note** … > … **a extra book slip** explaining the context … > > The use of “a” vs “an” has been explained to him many times, but once again, he knows best, and damned if he is going to be corrected by mere things like the conventions of the English language. So he writes jarringly like this all the time, quite deliberately. I think it actually should be encouraged, because it’s an effective red flag to new readers that his blatherings are not coming from a place of intelligence. This is radically different than the deliberate use of slang and euphemisms and comically intentional solecisms; it’s just stubborn doubling down on simple stupidity. > > A minor point, I admit, but revealing. Resolved: We should request the mods change the name of this thread to “DrDeth is **an** fuckin jackass”. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/116 "2021-03-07T01:36:28Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Resolved: We should request the mods change the name of this thread to “DrDeth is **an** fuckin jackass”. Friendly amendment: “…a absolute fuckin jackass”. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/117 "2021-03-07T01:49:49Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > It’s a remarkable degree of ideological consistency. DrDeth absolutely refuses to believe that there are such things as structural or institutional racism; the only racist acts or words that exist in the world are those deliberately produced by bad, racist people. This is actually not that uncommon a view in the US, sadly. > > But obviously the amount of racism in society has decreased dramatically in recent decades. So the logical conclusion of that view is that you have to believe either that the vast majority of people were bad and immoral until quite recent times, or that people 100 years ago weren’t actually any more racist than people today. Assuming for this discussion that it _is_ merely a belief system and individuals’ actions, a much larger percent of people believing and doing some things we find immoral is not that hard to swallow. It doesn’t even have to be the “vast majority”: however, take for instance the views on so-called miscegenation. The vast majority of white people (as well as a not-too-small percent of everyone in general) _did_ think that people from different “races” ought not to marry. If that isn’t “bad and immoral” then I don’t know what is. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/118 "2021-03-07T02:19:10Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Resolved: We should request the mods change the name of this thread to “DrDeth is **an** fuckin jackass”. I second the motion ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/119 "2021-03-07T02:21:39Z")
Call the question. Aye! ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/120 "2021-03-07T03:36:59Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > > [@Thing.Fish](#): > > > > It’s a remarkable degree of ideological consistency. DrDeth absolutely refuses to believe that there are such things as structural or institutional racism; the only racist acts or words that exist in the world are those deliberately produced by bad, racist people. This is actually not that uncommon a view in the US, sadly. > > > > But obviously the amount of racism in society has decreased dramatically in recent decades. So the logical conclusion of that view is that you have to believe either that the vast majority of people were bad and immoral until quite recent times, or that people 100 years ago weren’t actually any more racist than people today. > > Assuming for this discussion that it _is_ merely a belief system and individuals’ actions, a much larger percent of people believing and doing some things we find immoral is not that hard to swallow. It doesn’t even have to be the “vast majority”: however, take for instance the views on so-called miscegenation. The vast majority of white people (as well as a not-too-small percent of everyone in general) _did_ think that people from different “races” ought not to marry. If that isn’t “bad and immoral” then I don’t know what is. I certainly agree that racism is always bad and immoral. Still, there’s a significant moral difference between going along with racist ideas that almost everyone else in your society holds, and being the guy who clings to racism even after most people around you have rejected it. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/121 "2021-03-07T15:34:50Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Still, there’s a significant moral difference between Of course. You’re describing a continuum of beliefs with lots of gray between the extremes. Which is exactly the sort of thing DrDeth has firmly rejected whenever it’s been brought up by just about any other poster. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971.md?page=7)