# I pit DrDeth **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 28, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971 "2021-02-28T19:52:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1265 "2022-10-23T16:15:50Z")
DrDeth, your frequent attacks on my posts are a real pain in the ass. There-I gave my opinion on the subject. My question for you is, when are you going to drop the constant accusations of "JAQ"ing off, you sanctimonious shit? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1266 "2022-10-23T16:30:23Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Dude, the statement, “you are lying about your father’s service” does not insult your father. It insults you. Right? Nobody is attacking the guy’s father or whatever his legitimate service might have been. But also, nobody can actually _tell_ what his father’s legitimate service was, because he’s been so (say it with me now) _squirrelly_ about the details, and _that_ is what everyone is mocking him for. The fact that he keeps trying to change the subject and strawman everybody’s needling him for his compulsive dishonesty into direct attacks on his father’s service is transparent, gross, and stupid. And it’s _amazing_ that as many times as this has been explained to him, he _still_ doesn’t — or doesn’t _want_ to — get it. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1267 "2022-10-23T16:41:01Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > But also, nobody can actually _tell_ what his father’s legitimate service was, because he’s been so (say it with me now) _squirrelly_ about the details, and _that_ is what everyone is mocking him for. And he refuses to give _any_ verification, claiming that it can be used to doxx him. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1268 "2022-10-23T16:42:55Z")
I don’t mind his not wanting to out himself. I just get annoyed that his response to “i don’t believe you” is “how can you insult my sainted father!?” ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1269 "2022-10-23T16:44:22Z")
That part is fair on his part. Plenty of people on this board have met me in person, but I still don’t want to give verification on the board about much of anything and think it would be a bad idea for anyone to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1270 "2022-10-23T16:47:27Z")
Sure, _maybe_ his dad has some relatively unique name which can be used to track _him_ down but he won’t even say _that_ much. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1271 "2022-10-23T16:52:31Z")
Why should he share that much? Maybe there’s something else about his father that is identifying. Heck, if you find my father, you can find me. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1272 "2022-10-23T17:00:21Z")
I mean he refuses to state any particular reason for why revealing anything would lead to him, just vague claims that it would. IIRC, “if you find my father, you can find me” is more specific than anything he ever said. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1273 "2022-10-23T17:00:21Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > I’m not sure if the assertion that he claimed to be one had been made in jest or not, but he shouldn’t be pitted for something he didn’t claim. I know that on my part I was just joking. I had DD on my ignore list for a while after he did his “double down” thing in an interaction with me, where he was deliberately misrepresenting what I said and refused to acknowledge it. Being the usual asshat. But, he later apologized (not to me but the board in general) for some of his behavior and started getting better, and I took him off ignore. I haven’t been tempted to put him back on since. I personally don’t really have a beef with him. That’s not to say that everyone else griping is wrong, though. These complaints seem justified. I’m just not piling on because he doesn’t bother me so much, actually most of my interactions with him for a while now have been pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1274 "2022-10-23T17:06:59Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Dude, the statement, “you are lying about your father’s service” does not insult your father. It insults you. Sure, but accusing my Father of “stolen valor” _is_ insulting a disabled WW2 veteran. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1275 "2022-10-23T17:08:35Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Scuttlebutt is a Navy term. Yes, it’s actually what a drinking fountain is called in the Navy. It comes from when ships were made of wood and a drinking fountain was a cask with a cork it it. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1276 "2022-10-23T17:13:45Z")
Yeah. “Scuttlebutt” as a term is very like “water cooler gossip” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1277 "2022-10-23T17:19:01Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@puzzlegal](#): > > > > Dude, the statement, “you are lying about your father’s service” does not insult your father. It insults you. > > Sure, but accusing my Father of “stolen valor” _is_ insulting a disabled WW2 veteran. Naw. It’s just a claim that you are lying. And the places I’ve seen it, it’s been accusing you of stolen valor. Or, valor-by-proximity, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1278 "2022-10-23T17:39:38Z")
You’re mistaken about _who_ is being accused of stolen valour there, just like you’re frequently mistaken about a great many other things. Oh, hey, BTW, ever coming back to that D&D thread, coward? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1279 "2022-10-23T17:53:12Z")
Not really. It is other posters doubting your narrative. > [@MrDibble](#): > > Oh, hey, BTW, ever coming back to that D&D thread, coward? Taunting? Really? We’ve been telling him for 2 years to learn to let things go. Not returning to that thread is a good choice. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1280 "2022-10-23T17:59:28Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > > [@MrDibble](#): > > > > Oh, hey, BTW, ever coming back to that D&D thread, coward? > > Taunting? Really? He should have left that door closed: > [@DrDeth](#): > > You sick armchair cowards attacking real military veterans as you didn’t have the guts yourself to serve. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1281 "2022-10-23T18:55:11Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > > [@DrFidelius](#): > > > > Scuttlebutt is a Navy term. > > Yes, it’s actually what a drinking fountain is called in the Navy. It comes from when ships were made of wood and a drinking fountain was a cask with a cork it it. But more broadly, and to the case a bar, it’s a term liable to be thrown around by people without much or any kind of military background to try and sound like they “know the lingo,” as it were. Not unlike when people refer to senior or flag officers in the Navy as “brass.” Which, as others have stated, isn’t so much an indictment of @DrDeth’s father’s military service as it is of @DrDeth’s hamfisted relaying of it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1282 "2022-10-23T19:10:03Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > @DrDeth, dude, just admit you got caught fudging a few facts about your dad’s service, and it won’t be a big deal anymore. You can still get out of this relatively unscathed. I did not, nor did anyone “catch me”. Look ToykoBayer really hated my Dads pet rumor/theory of why Mac got caught with his pants down on Dec 8th. It is one of the great mysteries of WW2- [https://www.pacificwar.org.au/Philippines/Japanattacks.html](https://www.pacificwar.org.au/Philippines/Japanattacks.html) _It is at this point, that MacArthur’s headquarters at Manila takes on the characteristics of a chapter from Alice in Wonderland. History records that the Japanese launched devastating attacks on MacArthur’s airbases at about 12.20 p.m. on 8 December 1941. Instead of acting decisively to prepare for a likely Japanese attack on the Philippines, MacArthur took no significant action between 3.00 a.m. and 12.20 p.m. to bring his command to a proper state of readiness to resist an attack and to preserve his air force. Whether MacArthur’s paralysis during these critical nine hours was due to indecision or the restraining influence of President Quezon, or perhaps a combination of both, has never been satisfactorily explained by historians._ I never claimed my Dad performed any great acts of bravery, he got no such medals, not even a Purple heart. He Volunteered on Dec8 in the Philippines, got Malaria (along with many other GIs), and escaped with the rest of the Army Air Force there to Australia. Later, he served in Mac’s HQ unit where he heard that rumor. He achieved no great rank- brevet E7 was it. (Maybe brevet E8??). His combat experience was getting shot at by snipers when he delivered dispatches. His skills were considered valuable as he could type pretty fast on an Army typewriter and could drive a truck/jeep, etc. None of that stuff was really special or unique. That escape was what ToykoBayer claimed was a lie, as his limited knowledge made him think Mac etc on the PT boats was the only ones that got out. He insulted my Dad for "stolen valor " simply due to the fact that he did not like the rumor/theory and that he has a weird psychological need to be the SDMB’s greatest military expert. This also drives him to threadshit and hijack every single WW2 Alt-Hist thread, claiming that “that couldn’t happen”- thus showing either he is a rude asshole or so stupid he can’t understand the concept of Alt-Hist and not “fighting the Hypothetical”. TB- look if you don’t like the hypothetical posed by the OP, then stay out, don’t come in and shit all over the place, eh? And I wouldn’t even be here except he, Dissonance and a couple others like yourself keep bragging that somehow I was caught in a lie about my Dads service. > [@Dissonance](#): > > …but seeing as outing him for lying about his father’s military service didn’t make him put other posters on ignore, it alas was just wishful thinking on my part. Ah Dissonance . Poor guy. You spend your life here in the shadow of ToykoBayer, hoping like a pathetic puppy that your master will notice you- and when he does peeing all over yourself in excitement. Your idea of arguing is regurgitating a slew of pointless facts from Wikipedia that you clearly do not understand, hoping that that will make you look like an expert, and get your Master to pet you on your head. You come up with the most absurd ideas, like that the USA would declare war on Japan if the IJN attacked Dutch colonies, even tho the USA didn’t declare after the Nazis invaded the Netherlands. And when I come up with a quote from **FDR himself** saying the USA would not do so, your slink away. Or that the USSR could defeat Germany all on its own, regurgitating recent Russian propaganda, even tho Stalin and Khrushchev both said that without Lend-Lease they would lose. And more. You are so pathetic and cowardly. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1283 "2022-10-23T19:41:10Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > he has a weird psychological need to be the SDMB’s greatest military expert. Which is stupid because we all know that’s Magiver! ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1284 "2022-10-23T19:51:33Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > He achieved no great rank- brevet E7 was it. (Maybe brevet E8??). I’m sorry, but… da’fuck? Breveting is a concept I have only ever heard of, as a historical practice within the US armed forces, with respect to commissioned officer rank. Here again, this isn’t so much something that causes me to doubt your father’s service, so much as your relaying of it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971.md?page=63) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971.md?page=65)