# I pit DrDeth **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 28, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971 "2021-02-28T19:52:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 83
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1645 "2023-12-13T00:38:26Z")
@Dissonance 's post about tanks was in reply to another poster who had said that the Soviets had never produced any military systems which were any good. That point was absurd, and @Dissonance rightfully corrected him. @DrDeth came in with his typical complete nonsense about the tanks, which developed into the hijack. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1646 "2023-12-13T01:49:36Z")
Exactly, it was a giant threadshit by @DrDeth which @Aspenglow rightly shut down. And a threadshit by DrDeez with walls of quoted text that DrDeez likes to italicize rather than put in the convenient [quote] [/quote] box so that it is readily identifiable as quoted material. And the material that DrDeez himself quoted contradicted what he was saying. Oh, and is also DrDeez refusing to let anything go, even things he was shown to be completely wrong about years ago in threads with even less relation to collective farming than one might imagine. The bit where he states: > [@Why were collective farms so bad at being farms?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-collective-farms-so-bad-at-being-farms/994136/131): > > Oh and when you earlier said the Japaneses had paper mache tanks at Khalkhin Gol Good luck finding where I said that earlier in that thread about collective farming. It isn’t there. It’s from a thread several years ago. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1647 "2023-12-13T01:57:09Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Good luck finding where I said that earlier in that thread about collective farming. It isn’t there. It’s from a thread several years ago. Well, at least we know his memory isn’t completely gone. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1648 "2023-12-13T02:07:58Z")
So, how about them tanks! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1649 "2023-12-13T03:38:24Z")
Ah, ol’ DrDeth, aka Deplorable Record of Dreadful Errors & Truthless History, strikes again! ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1650 "2023-12-13T03:47:24Z")
Ha! That’s where he gets the name. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1651 "2023-12-13T04:35:20Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Seriously, can we get a topic ban for DrDeez posting about anything related to the military or history? Now he’s trying to threadjack the “Why were collective farms so bad at farming?” with his usual factually incorrect garbage by comparing the T-34s encountered by Germany in June 1941 with models of the Pz-IV introduced in March 1942 _in response_ to the T-34 as if they were the models of the Pz-IV in use in June 1941… > What any of this has to do with collective farming is beyond me. Well, it’s logical that if you operate heavy tanks on farms, they’ll compact soil and reduce crop yields even if they scare hell out of the weevils. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1652 "2023-12-13T10:30:56Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Well, at least we know his memory isn’t completely gone. [Bob Hope] _Tanks for the memory…_ [/Bob Hope] ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1653 "2023-12-15T11:13:18Z")
Now this fucking idiot says the Dope being an American-centric board means us foreigners can’t criticize America here. What an absolute arse-wen of a giant man-baby. “Waah! My Uncle Sam said you can’t call me names at my own party! Waah!”. Tosser. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1654 "2023-12-15T11:22:41Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Now this fucking idiot says the Dope being an American-centric board means us foreigners can’t criticize America here. In fairness, you’d never hear an American poster dare criticize a different country. We are a demure, civilized lot, everyone knows that. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1655 "2023-12-15T11:32:02Z")
Nor would we ever interfere in the affairs of a another sovereign nation. We are like Starfleet, scrupulously observing the prime directive. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1656 "2023-12-15T11:33:47Z")
There was a point early in my time at the Dope when I realised that the single most contentious OP I could post would be: > There are some aspects of America that could be improved somewhat. And honestly I thought that time had largely passed. But here he is kicking off about “America bashing” in response to you saying something as milquetoast as this: > [@How wealthy would the wealthiest person be in your ideal society?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-wealthy-would-the-wealthiest-person-be-in-your-ideal-society/994503/29): > > This might shock you, but “the American way” isn’t universally considered something good to emulate. which… I mean if that is crossing a line into unconscionable and ill-mannered abuse of one’s hosts then _gosh_. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1657 "2023-12-15T11:35:20Z")
Which thread? I’m an American who has lived overseas for many years and, in many ways, “gone native” on foreign customs and beliefs. Even though I haven’t been back in a while and am actively pursuing alternative citizenship, my passport is still American. Am I allowed to criticize? I’d like to test this. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1658 "2023-12-15T11:39:06Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Which thread? _How wealthy would the wealthiest person be in your ideal society_, in GD. Or what Stanislaus linked to 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1659 "2023-12-15T11:44:33Z")
I followed his link and have replied. Perhaps inadvisedly. But Lord, what a maroon. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1660 "2023-12-15T12:02:25Z")
“We … we … we …” Also, if I want to know what the American opinion is on a subject I’ll ask Sam\_Stone like any sensible person would. 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1661 "2023-12-15T12:40:51Z")
DrDeth was doing just fine in that thread, using the one thing he actually knows about to advocate for strong progressive tax policies and an end to obscene wealth accumulation. His comment about “the American way” to mean “people should be rewarded for their hard work but not at the expense of everyone else” isn’t even the top thousand of classic DrDeth moments. Of course once he got jabbed about it he spiraled away from good sense, which is pretty much where you’d expect him to go. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1662 "2023-12-15T12:45:54Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > people should be rewarded for their hard work but not at the expense of everyone else That’s not any American Way I’ve ever heard about. Sounds more like Scandinavia, to be honest (not that they’re _all_ that great, Sweden’s GINI is terrible). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1663 "2023-12-15T12:50:46Z")
It’s the storybook version of the American way, sure. Anybody can be successful if they work hard, everybody has the same chances! In an America without obscene wealth accumulation it might even be closer to the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1664 "2023-12-15T16:49:06Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > We are like Starfleet, scrupulously observing the prime directive. If you’ve watched any of the Star Trek shows, they decide that “just this one time” they need to break the Prime Directive so often that they might as well be Neocons. 😆 I mean, they _were_ written for an American audience after all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971.md?page=82) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971.md?page=84)