# I pit DrDeth **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 28, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971 "2021-02-28T19:52:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1642
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971/1642 "2023-12-12T22:03:35Z")
Seriously, can we get a topic ban for DrDeez posting about anything related to the military or history? Now he’s trying to threadjack the “Why were collective farms so bad at farming?” with his usual factually incorrect garbage by comparing the T-34s encountered by Germany in June 1941 with models of the Pz-IV introduced in March 1942 _in response_ to the T-34 as if they were the models of the Pz-IV in use in June 1941. > [@Why were collective farms so bad at being farms?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-were-collective-farms-so-bad-at-being-farms/994136/131): > > Let us compare the T34 1941 to the 1941 Panzer 4 T34 front hull armor- 50 mm Panzer 4 front armor= 50mm. T34 gun- 76 mm tank gun M1940 F-34, penetration 50mm Panzer IV gun (1941 model) 7.5 cm Pak 40 penetration 108 mm Speed- T34- 33 mph Pkw IV= 26 mph. Now yeah the 1941 Pkw 4 replaced the earlier model with slightly lighter armor and a lesser gun. The 400 1940 T34 with an inferior gun did face the Pkw IV with an inferior gun, true. So which tank was better? The first Pz. IVs went int… What any of this has to do with collective farming is beyond me. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drdeth/933971)._