# I pit.... DrFidelius! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 23, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916 "2016-03-23T02:26:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/281 "2016-04-02T01:29:39Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > How far did you jog yesterday, **JohnClay**? 0 km ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/282 "2016-04-02T03:44:13Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > …Ok what about this guy: > [http://www.thegabrielmethod.com/about-jon-gabriel](http://www.thegabrielmethod.com/about-jon-gabriel) > > He was really fat now he has the belly I would like. If he can do it, why is it impossible for me? (BTW I’m currently 162 lbs / 74 kg). > > Also my belly fat isn’t actually that visceral like I assumed because I am able to do this type of thing: > [http://s2.dmcdn.net/ChZ4Q/1280x720-lGy.jpg](http://s2.dmcdn.net/ChZ4Q/1280x720-lGy.jpg) I’ve bought this guy’s book twice but I still can’t find it at the moment… anyway part of his method involves visualisation - I think it is for a few minutes a day and it partly involves getting pictures of your ideal body and imagining that you had that body. I’ve never actually tried his technique (well I have for a few seconds at a time). The first copy I had of his book included a CD with the visualisation program and also relaxation as well. My point is that using his program would involve me thinking about weight loss a lot more than I currently do. Some people use affirmations to try and lose and maintain their weight. > **[30 Positive Weight Loss Affirmations To Help You Reduce Weight.](https://www.self-help-and-self-development.com/weight-loss-affirmations.html)** > > Weight Loss Affirmations welcomes you. Here you will find positive affirmations for weight loss, which, if used diligently, will help you lose weight. > [@](#): > > If you are a determined person, then repeating the following affirmations over and over, at least a hundred times daily, preferably in front of a mirror, for a period of at least six months, will slowly but surely help you look at and live a different life, one that is more fitter than fatter. Again, this involves thinking about weight loss more than I currently do. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/283 "2016-04-02T04:39:34Z")
Visualization won’t help. Actually doing the work will help. (Next time you’re at Las Vegas, visualize winning a lot of money. Well, why not, I guess. At very least, it won’t hurt!) ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/284 "2016-04-02T05:53:35Z")
I thought visualization can help with motivation though in the book I was talking about it apparently achieves more than that. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/285 "2016-04-02T07:43:30Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > 0 km He’s more machine now than man. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/286 "2016-04-02T13:27:36Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > 0 km Well, this just brings us back to **JohnClay** being a very very lazy person. Diet and exercise is too much burden, too much work, a sloth of true indolence. The fuck-wit ain’t very bright either. I hate to bring in the specter of religious devotion, but this guy is a great example. This whole thread has the look and feel of a witnessing. **JohnClay** is just trying to convert us to his way of thinking and nothing will change his little mind. I’ll bet pine cones to dandelion flowers he has a ritual when he takes his sacred medicines, a dance or he spins in place, anything so the magic is stronger. What is your sin, **JohnClay** , what evil thing have you done? Why do you hide behind your pathetic excuse of a waste of protoplasm? Run, don’t walk, to your nearest Catholic priest and TELL HIM ALL !!! Amen ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/287 "2016-04-02T19:24:34Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Today, 74 kg, also breathing in… Say, have you ever heard of the “[Breatharian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia)” diet? Guaranteed weight loss, no need for exercise or calorie counting. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/288 "2016-04-02T20:32:01Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Today, 74 kg, also breathing in… > [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/RETy7SA.jpg) > My moobs seem to be smaller 🙂 > My rib cage is sticking out more… I also think I have bad posture because my normal breathing pic looks like I have a huge belly: (compare with [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19213966&postcount=180](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19213966&postcount=180) ) > [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/95TrBxn.jpg) Jesus, what a porker. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/289 "2016-04-02T20:44:51Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > > [@watchwolf49](#): > > > > How far did you jog yesterday, **JohnClay**? > > 0 km That’s the winning approach, John. Stay on the sofa, eat chips and biscuits and laze your way to a healthy body. And then you can write the book about it and make a fortune. Do it. I believe in you. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/290 "2016-04-02T21:29:58Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Jesus, what a porker. :rolleyes: Kim Jong-un style of sexiness … it’s the new rage with the girls … ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/291 "2016-04-02T23:05:02Z")
I’m morbidly obese and I was so nauseated by his flabbiness that I went out and took a walk. Dude has never exercised in his life. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/292 "2016-04-03T00:12:14Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > Well, this just brings us back to **JohnClay** being a very very lazy person. Diet and exercise is too much burden, too much work, a sloth of true indolence. Though I haven’t been jogging lately I still have been dieting and walking a lot. I also climbed a 200m mountain last week. > [@](#): > > … **JohnClay** is just trying to convert us to his way of thinking and nothing will change his little mind… Well my diet has been working and I think DrFidelius’s diet would make me too hungry. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/293 "2016-04-03T00:22:51Z")
You’re a blob of a man, **JC**. You may be the first human being with **no** muscle mass. Shameful. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/294 "2016-04-03T00:33:40Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Though I haven’t been jogging lately I still have been dieting and walking a lot. I also climbed a 200m mountain last week. FTR, 200m is not a mountain. Multiple sources indicate the minimal size requirement to be a mountain is 2000 ft (610m). You sound ridiculous inflating your hike this way. > [@](#): > > Well my diet has been working and I think DrFidelius’s diet would make me too hungry. You aren’t getting this. Your diet is working for you. Fan-freaking-tastic. **DrF** made a suggestion for a diet plan that would work for most people. You don’t like his suggestion and prefer your own “belly fat” diet. Duly noted. The majority of people (all?) who read this thread and the belly fat thread think the belly fat diet is bunk for reasons we have enumerated at length. Also, you should exercise. Enjoy your diet. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/295 "2016-04-03T00:38:41Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > FTR, 200m is not a mountain. Multiple sources indicate the minimal size requirement to be a mountain is 2000 ft (610m). You sound ridiculous inflating your hike this way. From Wikipedia: “Mount is a mountain in a national park…”. In the article it calls it a mountain a few times. > **[Mountain](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain)** > > A mountain is a large natural rise of the Earth's surface that usually has a "summit" (the name for a mountain's top, which can also be called a peak). It is usually steeper and taller than a hill. By definition, mountains are often thought of as being a hill which is higher than 600 meters (about 2,000 feet). However, some definitions say a mountain is a hill higher than 300 meters (about 1,000 feet). > The forming of a mountain is called orogeny. Mountains are formed when rock layers in the grou... “In Australia, Botswana and some other places, the word “mountains” is also used to describe high land that is really a plateau and is flat on top, rather than having peaks.” > **[List of mountains in Australia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_in_Australia)** > > This is a list of mountains in Australia. > This is a list of the top 50 mountains in Australia ranked by topographic prominence. Most of these peaks are the highest point in their areas. There’s even “Mount Elimbah, 129 m” > [@](#): > > You aren’t getting this. Your diet is working for you. Fan-freaking-tastic. **DrF** made a suggestion for a diet plan that would work for most people. You don’t like his suggestion and prefer your own “belly fat” diet. Duly noted. The majority of people (all?) who read this thread and the belly fat thread think the belly fat diet is bunk for reasons we have enumerated at length. Why is it bunk? Something to do with spot reduction? > [@](#): > > Also, you should exercise. Enjoy your diet. Climbing a 200m hill is exercise… ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/296 "2016-04-03T00:57:12Z")
Also: > **[Mountain](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain)** > > A mountain is a large natural rise of the Earth's surface that usually has a "summit" (the name for a mountain's top, which can also be called a peak). It is usually steeper and taller than a hill. By definition, mountains are often thought of as being a hill which is higher than 600 meters (about 2,000 feet). However, some definitions say a mountain is a hill higher than 300 meters (about 1,000 feet). > The forming of a mountain is called orogeny. Mountains are formed when rock layers in the grou... > [@](#): > > …In the USA, even though there are many very tall mountains, the name mountain is often given to hills that may be only 100 feet high… > > …In South Africa, even though there are many very tall mountains, the name mountain is often given to hills that may be only 100 feet high… Not sure how true that is though. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/297 "2016-04-03T01:03:49Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > From Wikipedia: > “Mount is a mountain in a national park…”. In the article it calls it a mountain a few times. > [Mountain - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain) > “In Australia, Botswana and some other places, the word “mountains” is also used to describe high land that is really a plateau and is flat on top, rather than having peaks.” > [List of mountains in Australia - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_in_Australia) > There’s even “Mount Elimbah, 129 m” Look, if it’s shorter than the Eiffel tower, it’s not a fucking mountain. You can call it whatever you want, but it’s not. Also, the measurement of heights is from sea level; does your mountain begin at sea level, or is it less than 200 meters from its base to its (heh) summit? Yes, of course, regardless of my nitpicks, climbing that “mountain” is exercise. It’s damn good exercise. You should do it consistently, two or three times a week, until it is no longer a challenge, and then you should find a higher mountain. Or a stairway inside a skyscraper, whatever. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/298 "2016-04-03T01:13:47Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > …Also, the measurement of heights is from sea level; does your mountain begin at sea level, or is it less than 200 meters from its base to its (heh) summit?.. The bottom is a bit above sea level so the peak would be a bit less than 200 from the base. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/299 "2016-04-03T01:21:00Z")
Locally, in San Diego, we have Cowles Mountain and Mount Woodson (among others) which have “mountain” and “mount” in their names…but are less than 1,000 feet from trailhead to summit. Damn fine exercise! A 600 foot climb is no mean accomplishment. One of my favorite trails is called “Climbers’ Loop Trail” and it goes up 400 feet, across one mile, and then down again. An ideal challenge for someone like me, and quite probably someone like you. I like going up hills…because it’s so much easier coming down again when I’m bushed! In contrast, I would dream hiking down into The Grand Canyon…and then having to grind back uphill again, when I’m tired and footsore! Also, the view from hilltops is usually pretty impressive! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/300 "2016-04-03T02:03:15Z")
Upstate New York has Mohonk Mountain and its Labyrinth, a marked trail stretching some 975 feet through a natural rock field. That hike was an annual event with my church’s youth group. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916.md?page=16)