# I pit....  DrFidelius!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 23, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916 "2016-03-23T02:26:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/301 "2016-04-03T02:30:54Z")

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**Skywatcher** : Inspired by your post…and by your name!..I went to Google Maps and put in Mohonk Mountain Labyrinth. You can see it! The first hit is Mohonk Mountain House, and about 1/10 mile due east is a labyrinth!

Skywatching (downwards!) is fun!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/302 "2016-04-03T03:35:57Z")

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Just to be clear: the Mohonk “Labyrinth” of rocks starts [here](https://www.google.com/maps/place/41%C2%B045'59.8%22N+74%C2%B009'18.2%22W/@41.7649366,-74.1563411,542m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0), heads south, and culminates at the tower.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/303 "2016-04-03T04:34:23Z")

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Oh! Well, cool, they have a garden labyrinth too! I could really get to like that place!

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/304 "2016-04-03T21:26:48Z")

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I managed to summit my latest three-foot peak last night, after which I stretched out horizontally and engaged in an eight-hour consciousness reduction.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/305 "2016-04-03T21:41:35Z")

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Yeah? Well, I walked up the stairs. All the way to the third floor. (After that I took the elevator the rest of the way up.)

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/306 "2016-04-03T21:45:21Z")

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I climb ten foot up an extension ladder a few days ago … completely exhausted me … almost fell trying to climb back down … three straight days in bed before I recovered enough to trim my toe-nails.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/307 "2016-04-04T18:21:24Z")

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When I first started posting here his sig line said something like “Professor of anomalous paleontology, Miskatonic University.”

I thought he really was a Dr. and that Miskatonic University was a real place. I’d read my Lovecraft so I had absolutely no excuse for this belief. This was 1999, or so, I had just gotten the Internet and thought that everything on it must be true, but that’s no excuse. Anyway, I gave exaggerated credibility to everything he said based on his stated credentials.

About 5 or six years later, apropos of nothing, I suddenly remembered that Miskatonic University was fictional and that the good Dr. was having me on.

I felt shame and anger, but I realized that I would look small and petty if I called Dr. F. Out on his little fib and how I had swallowed it. I would seem obsessive and weird.

I decided to bide my time and get my revenge later. I would wait for a pit thread about Dr. F. (Eventually he would screw up, make a mistake and get pitted for it.). There would be a pile on, and from the safe anonymity of the herd, I could attack and get my revenge for having been so gullible.

Now finally, 17 years later, I have my opportunity. I will just glance over this thread, see what evrybody is piling on about and finally give Dr. Fidelius (Fidelius indeed! Ha!) the punishment he so richly deserves…  
Hmmmm.

So yeah, umm, this crazy OCD guy is right and Dr. Fidelius gave bad advice. If you are a 1,000 pound guy who eats 30,000 calories a day, and cut that in half you are still going to gain weight, right?

So, bad on you Dr. F.

(Dammit, that was hardly worth waiting 17 years for.)

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/308 "2016-04-04T18:29:24Z")

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Still, playing the long game is its own reward.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/309 "2016-04-04T18:39:39Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Oh! Well, cool, they have a garden labyrinth too! I could really get to like that place!

I’ve seen Labyrinth the movie.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/310 "2016-04-04T22:09:01Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> When I first started posting here his sig line said something like “Professor of anomalous paleontology, Miskatonic University.” … [snip] … So, bad on you Dr. F.
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> (Dammit, that was hardly worth waiting 17 years for.)

That’s so sad … after all this time you have to side with a total nutcase …

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/311 "2016-04-05T06:59:09Z")

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Today I went to the local mental health clinic for a six-monthly checkup. There was a new psychiatrist who seemed to be super happy and I said “you seem to be smiling a lot” and he said “I can’t help it”. I told him my life story and in the end he said he’d keep me on my current medication since I hadn’t been hospitalized for about 10 years. There was also a lady there. She asked about what my new diet involved. I was also saying that the anti-psychotic that me and many people I know am on, Clozapine, seems to be related to being overweight. She said that apparently it can give people an insatiable appetite for carbohydrates. I later asked her if that was in a textbook or in studies, etc, and she said it was anecdotal. The doctor asked me if I had OCD and I denied it. Perhaps I talked about the messageboards and clopine, etc, too much. I also commented that I don’t get the minimum wage and the lady said that was illegal. Then I said I used to work at a cafe and they only paid me half of the normal wage because I was a slow worker - I think it is called a “supported wage”. I told her that at my job my boss usually doesn’t pressure me to work quickly.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/312 "2016-04-05T07:04:59Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> …So, bad on you Dr. F…

It seems that the good doctor won’t even see your post…

> [@Threads you will not click on](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/threads-you-will-not-click-on/750778/13):
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> I will not click on anything with my name in the title.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/313 "2016-04-05T10:34:18Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> There was a new psychiatrist who seemed to be super happy and I said “you seem to be smiling a lot” and he said “I can’t help it”.

Your psychiatrist sounds manic. Did you suggest he talk to someone about this inability to control his mood?

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/314 "2016-04-05T14:38:49Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> She asked about what my new diet involved.

Did you tell her about your plan to eat half of less of everything, including vegetables, for the next 3 weeks?

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/315 "2016-04-05T16:10:42Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> It seems that the good doctor won’t even see your post…

Doesn’t matter. I will know. When next we meet, he will sense in me a changed man, that our roles have shifted. He will know fear, but he won’t know exactly why. Not knowing will cause more fear and a vicious cycle of fear and apprehension will have been born.

Eventually, this will consume him and his previous cogent arguments will degrade into endless picayune rantings, and paranoid rebuttals to imagined slights.

That’s the new 16 year plan, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/316 "2016-04-05T20:55:20Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> Today I went to the local mental health clinic for a six-monthly checkup. There was a new psychiatrist who seemed to be super happy and I said “you seem to be smiling a lot” and he said “I can’t help it”.

The time to beware is when he starts wearing a Harlequin costume, carrying a giant cartoon mallet, and calling you “pudd’n” and “Mistah J”.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2016, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/317 "2016-04-06T05:48:53Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Your psychiatrist sounds manic. Did you suggest he talk to someone about this inability to control his mood?

Well when I said that I might move back home if things go bad at work he seemed worried and stopped beaming.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/318 "2016-04-06T15:57:29Z")

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So you’re going to move back to Florida?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/319 "2016-04-06T16:39:16Z")

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> Well when I said that I might move back home if things go bad at work he seemed worried and stopped beaming.

Is your psychiatrist also your dad?

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/320 "2016-04-07T09:07:56Z")

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[http://www.possibility.com/wiki/index.php?title=EffectsOfSemiStarvation](http://www.possibility.com/wiki/index.php?title=EffectsOfSemiStarvation)  
About a study where people ate half their normal food intake:

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> …One of the most of the striking changes that occurred in the volunteers was a dramatic increase in food preoccupations. The men found concentration on their usual activities increasingly difficult, because they became plagued by incessant thoughts of food and eating. During the semistarvation phase of the experiement, food became a principal topic of conversation, reading, and daydreams. Rating scales revealed that the men experienced an increase in thinking about food, as well as corresponding declines in interest in sex and activity during semistarvation…

Then they went back to their old diets:

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> …Even after 12 weeks of refeeding, the men frequently complained of increased hunger immediately following a large meal…During the weekends in particular, some of the men found it difficult to stop eating. Their daily intake commonly ranged between 8,000 and 10,000 calories…

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