# I pit.... DrFidelius! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 23, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916 "2016-03-23T02:26:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/21 "2016-03-23T04:00:04Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > If you’re currently on an effective diet, then just shut the fuck up about it. It’s working? Then don’t fucking change anything. Hear here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/22 "2016-03-23T04:02:12Z")
Oh look, this idiot started a thread in a forum where everyone can say what they really think. Good job, OP, you’re a dumbass. Count calories. Move more. That’s it, doofus. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/23 "2016-03-23T04:03:29Z")
nevermind ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/24 "2016-03-23T04:04:37Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > …Count calories. Move more. That’s it, doofus. So you’re disagreeing with DrFidelius too? That isn’t what he said that I should try for 3 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/25 "2016-03-23T04:30:11Z")
There’s no way for us to know how many vegetable servings you’re already eating. It could be too much. But regardless, what he said is right. Halving everything you eat will make you lose weight in three weeks. Period. Whether you can do that isn’t what he was addressing. Yes, you’re delusional. This isn’t Exhibit A. I think we’ve gone through the alphabet at least thrice at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/26 "2016-03-23T04:30:14Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > I wanted to know if coffee/caffeine REALLY did affect belly fat because I found conflicting information, etc. I am on a diet but I will change the details if I find better information. As far as DrFidelius goes I’ve hardly had any discussion with him but the threads keep on being closed for various reasons. (e.g. that it “wasn’t really a debate thread”). If you haven’t had any discussion with him, why are you Pitting him? > [@](#): > > Also I think it is reasonable to argue about vegetables even if I find that my diet is working. I’d say “whatever floats your boat” but we’re all getting damned sick of the diet “discussion”. > [@Trinopus](#): > > Okay, fine, whatever. Don’t cut back on the celery and carrots, but cut the overall calories by a significant amount, and try to keep it all in balance. > > Do some mild exercise. Go for a two-mile walk, a couple times a week. Work up from there. > > You’re an obsessional jerk, do you know that? Listen: eat less, exercise more. > > That’s all you need to do. > > Now STFU and go and be healthy. Yes. All of this. You are obsessing on details instead of paying attention to the big picture. Who the fuck cares if **DrF** told you to cut all of your food intake in half? Eat less, and burn more calories than you take in. Why is that so hard for you to understand? > [@JohnClay](#): > > So you’re disagreeing with DrFidelius too? That isn’t what he said that I should try for 3 weeks. Oh for fuck’s sake. No one is disagreeing with the guy, because he offered you some sensible advice. Eat less. That’s it. Eat. Less. And enough with the diet threads already. You won’t listen to anything anyone says, so just shut it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/27 "2016-03-23T04:47:17Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > If you haven’t had any discussion with him, why are you Pitting him? I said I’ve hardly had any, not none. > [@](#): > > Yes. All of this. You are obsessing on details instead of paying attention to the big picture. Who the fuck cares if **DrF** told you to cut all of your food intake in half? You don’t let me get away with saying things you disagree with so I should be able to call him out on it. I think it is ridiculous advice (halve your vegies) yet people keep on agreeing with him. That’s why I keep it up. Because people keep on agreeing with him. I guess you think I’m supposed to say “yes he’s right! I need to halve my vegies for three weeks!” > [@](#): > > …No one is disagreeing with the guy, because he offered you some sensible advice. Eat less. That’s it. Eat. Less. No he said **“Half of everything, including vegetables, because vegetables include calories”** - halve your vegetables (and the rest) for three weeks not simply “eat less”. So you’re saying his halve your vegies adivce is “sensible”. I’d like to pit you too. > [@](#): > > And enough with the diet threads already. You won’t listen to anything anyone says, so just shut it. By “listen” perhaps you mean “let them change your mind” and they have quite a few times in the past - e.g. about the Warrior Diet (fasting). You yourself haven’t been listening to me sometimes in the normal sense of the word - e.g. your first quote in my post. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/28 "2016-03-23T04:52:53Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > There’s no way for us to know how many vegetable servings you’re already eating. It could be too much. But regardless, what he said is right. Halving everything you eat will make you lose weight in three weeks. Period. I said: “ **I agree that I would lose weight** but I think cutting your vegetable intake in half is a bad idea.” > [@](#): > > Yes, you’re delusional. This isn’t Exhibit A. I think we’ve gone through the alphabet at least thrice at this point. Look at what I said quoted myself saying. You misunderstood me. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/29 "2016-03-23T05:03:04Z")
You’re a fucking vegetable. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/30 "2016-03-23T05:09:09Z")
At this point, it’s all trolling. Jackass. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/31 "2016-03-23T05:16:00Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > At this point, it’s all trolling. > > Jackass. > **[Revised Forum Rules for the BBQ Pit: read this before posting](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=507985)** > > The BBQ Pit is the forum for rants about the outside world or quarrels between posters - often the first turns into the second. Although the standards of discourse are looser than in the other forums, the Pit is NOT a free-for-all - you don’t have to... “By trolling, we mean posting of inflammatory comments solely to get a rise out of people” But I want people to get behind me and disagree with DrFidelius… I wish people wouldn’t keep on getting mad with me. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/32 "2016-03-23T05:17:41Z")
> [@](#): > > You said to " eat less, exercise more" - nothing about eating healthy foods… though I am currently on a very healthy diet. Weight loss has little to nothing to do with the consumption of “healthy” foods; it’s a simple math issue. You can lose fat by eating nothing but Whoppers for 3 weeks. As long as the caloric total of your day’s Whoppers is less than the caloric total of your day’s energy demands, weight loss will ensue. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/33 "2016-03-23T05:21:29Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Weight loss has little to nothing to do with the consumption of “healthy” foods… In post 17 Trinopus said “Now STFU and go and be **healthy** ” ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/34 "2016-03-23T05:41:26Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > So you’re disagreeing with DrFidelius’s advice then? . . . I neither agree nor disagree. As noted above, I don’t know how much of your current diet consists of vegetables. > [@](#): > > I made this thread is about DrFidelius and vegetables though! And nobody here gives a damn. **Dr.Fidelius** isn’t the problem here. Your obsessional behavior patterns are the problem. You keep opening post after post, asking questions and then paying no attention to the answers. You need a doctor, and it isn’t for your diet. > [@](#): > > You said to " eat less, exercise more" - nothing about eating healthy foods… though I am currently on a very healthy diet. Good. If you’re on a healthy diet, and if you exercise moderately, you will lose weight. Now get to work on the STFU part. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/35 "2016-03-23T05:51:09Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > [Revised Forum Rules for the BBQ Pit: read this before posting - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=507985) > “By trolling, we mean posting of inflammatory comments solely to get a rise out of people” > > But I want people to get behind me and disagree with DrFidelius… I wish people wouldn’t keep on getting mad with me. And you’re not going to get anyone behind you because you’re annoying and we don’t give a fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/36 "2016-03-23T05:54:45Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > But I want people to get behind me and disagree with DrFidelius… I wish people wouldn’t keep on getting mad with me. Yeah? Well I want a pony. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/37 "2016-03-23T05:56:25Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Yeah? Well I want a pony. …that farts rainbows and poops candy. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/38 "2016-03-23T06:24:46Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > I neither agree nor disagree. As noted above, I don’t know how much of your current diet consists of vegetables. You don’t know? Well why didn’t you say so! Well by volume perhaps half are vegetables. They are all low calorie vegetables such as asparagus, lettuce, celery and broccoli. So now you know, do you agree or disagree with DrFidelius? I guess you’d rather stay on the fence. > [@](#): > > And nobody here gives a damn. **Dr.Fidelius** isn’t the problem here. Your obsessional behavior patterns are the problem. Well the problem is that people keep on misunderstanding me - e.g. post 28 and 33. > [@](#): > > You keep opening post after post, asking questions and then paying no attention to the answers. “No” attention? Sounds like an exaggeration. > [@](#): > > You need a doctor, and it isn’t for your diet. Well thanks for your advice. I see one once a month for my mental illness. > [@](#): > > Now get to work on the STFU part. But then you might think that is evidence that I pay no attention to people’s answers. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/39 "2016-03-23T06:41:16Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > The only way to truely get rid of that belly fat is lipo suction, I believe. If you can’t do that, then you’re get over it and move on. > **[Liposuction may boost the growth of dangerous visceral fat](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/liposuction-may-boost-the-growth-of-dangerous-visceral-fat/)** > > While liposuction takes away subcutaneous fat, study shows that it may increase visceral fat, which surrounds the internal organs “Liposuction focuses on the removal of subcutaneous fat, which is right under the skin. After surgery, patients gained visceral fat” (The belly fat I am concerned about is “visceral fat”) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/40 "2016-03-23T07:05:39Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Yeah? Well I want a pony. Damn you! I want the pony!! _shakes fist_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916.md?page=3)