# I pit.... DrFidelius! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 23, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916 "2016-03-23T02:26:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/141 "2016-03-26T08:56:46Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > And yet people keep telling you, over and over again, that you CANNOT lose weight just in one area. Why won’t you accept it? I want proof, not just some people saying it over and over again. Not knowing how to do it isn’t proof it is impossible. BTW not everyone thought it was impossible: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19195240&postcount=29](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19195240&postcount=29) > [@](#): > > …the metabolic syndrome theory of belly fat proposes that an underlying metabolic disorder, involving insulin resistance and inflammation, is causing fat to pile up in the belly area. Resolving the metabolic problem should therefore cause the fat to move off the belly. Perhaps to the butt or neck, but at least the belly will be smaller. > One very effective way to reduce insulin resistance is to fast periodically… [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19195855&postcount=35](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19195855&postcount=35) > [@](#): > > …You’ve never heard of metabolic syndrome? What rock do you live under? A key symptom of metabolic syndrome is accumulating fat around the waistline. It’s closely linked to insulin resistance… Here’s my GD thread about it: (I didn’t mention those previous quotes though) > **["You can't target the fat loss area"](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=787736)** > > Here: Sage Rat and ddsun said that you can’t target fat loss in an area. (ddsum said “…with a diet”) Here is a pic of Jeremy Clarkson’s belly: If he was to lose weight would it involve something like halving... ddsun didn’t reply in the GD thread but he did reply here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19195900&postcount=36](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19195900&postcount=36) But his links are saying that you can’t target the fat loss area through **exercise** Despite this Trinopus wrote: > [@Trinopus](#): > > …Nutrition isn’t targetable. > > The way to flatten your belly is to do shit-loads of sit-ups… ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/142 "2016-03-26T08:58:57Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Yes. Also, you were wrong about him being wrong, so you’re self-obsession isn’t even factually founded. If opinions and assertions of mine always involve me talking about myself then that means you keep on talking about yourself too! ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/143 "2016-03-26T10:58:20Z")
[Say goodbye to belly fat, the **kayaker** way!](https://www.google.com/search?q=vibrating+belt+machine&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=svin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj06WnmN7LAhXIVD4KHTb8DUkQ_AUICSgD&biw=1024&bih=671#imgrc=u0Ux54tzt4O3UM%3A) ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/144 "2016-03-26T13:48:38Z")
34 hours 17 minutes and 47 seconds since I’ve posted on this thread … … and the OP is still fucking wrong. What kind of idiot doesn’t know vegetables have carbohydrates in them … the same kind of person who won’t believe his doctor is trying to kill him … then whine when we point that out to him. \*If you’re blue and a bit run down, Can’t seem to get your feet off the ground; Baby, you ought to try a little bit of LSD. Only if you want to shake your head and rattle your brain, (Give yourself some psychic energy); Baby, you ought to try a little bit of LSD. For you and meeeeee\*. – Country Joe and the Fish ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/145 "2016-03-26T13:54:50Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > 34 hours 17 minutes and 47 seconds since I’ve posted on this thread … > > … and the OP is still fucking wrong. > > What kind of idiot doesn’t know vegetables have carbohydrates in them … I’m not sure what you mean. BTW the diet calls the recommended vegetables “super carbs” (though they’re low in carbs compared to the other vegetables). > [@](#): > > the same kind of person who won’t believe his doctor is trying to kill him … My doctor seems to want to help me though… 😕 > [@](#): > > then whine when we point that out to him. 😕 BTW that’s the first time I’ve heard that my doctor might want to kill me… > [@](#): > > \*If you’re blue and a bit run down, > Can’t seem to get your feet off the ground; > Baby, you ought to try a little bit of LSD. > > Only if you want to shake your head and rattle your brain, > (Give yourself some psychic energy); > Baby, you ought to try a little bit of LSD. > > For you and meeeeee\*. > > – Country Joe and the Fish 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/146 "2016-03-26T17:41:43Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > The way to flatten your belly is to do shit-loads of sit-ups. Get cracking, soldier! This is untrue. Doing a shitload of sit ups will not burn fat, it’ll simply strengthen the abdominal muscles. If anything, it’ll make the midsection more prominent (unless coupled with a good eating routine). ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/147 "2016-03-26T20:44:08Z")
Now i understand why everyone was so upset with John Clay in the food pyramid thread. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/148 "2016-03-27T01:58:08Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > The aroma, now that was a failure. That was Purging disorder. It helps with belly fat reduction. I think he recommends that in chapter 10. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/149 "2016-03-27T02:31:29Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > . . . But his links are saying that you can’t target the fat loss area through **exercise** > > Despite this Trinopus wrote: “…Nutrition isn’t targetable. The way to flatten your belly is to do shit-loads of sit-ups…” You’re conflating two different issues: fat loss, and belly flattening. You can flatten your belly by exercise. It firms up the muscles that hold your belly in place. What I said does not contradict what you linked to. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/150 "2016-03-27T02:34:33Z")
> [@](#): > > The way to flatten your belly is to do shit-loads of sit-ups. Get cracking, soldier! > [@Ambivalid](#): > > This is untrue. Doing a shitload of sit ups will not burn fat, it’ll simply strengthen the abdominal muscles. If anything, it’ll make the midsection more prominent (unless coupled with a good eating routine). You just said, “This is untrue” and then explained why, in fact, it is true. Exercise will firm up the muscles and thereby help flatten the belly. It does this by strengthening the abdominal muscles, exactly as you said. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/151 "2016-03-27T02:51:21Z")
Trinopus: I don’t just want to flatten my belly a bit - I want it to be completely flat. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/152 "2016-03-27T03:15:08Z")
See a doctor. Follow the diet they advise. You are not interested in our answers. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/153 "2016-03-27T03:28:52Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > See a doctor. Follow the diet they advise. You are not interested in our answers. So why bother giving him yet another one to ignore? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/154 "2016-03-27T03:34:47Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Trinopus: I don’t just want to flatten my belly a bit - I want it to be completely flat. Bellies don’t do that. That would be pathological. The human abdomen extends a bit outward. You might just as well ask to be four inches taller: not fuckin’ gonna happen. Do the best with what you’ve got, and that includes eating less and exercising more. You can target your exercise to those parts of your body you most want to improve. Also exercise will improve your cardio-vascular system, permitting you to live longer. Losing weight will also extend your life expectancy. Now, yeah, that means we have to put up with your nonsense that much longer, but, hey, I wouldn’t wish bad health on anyone. (Okay, that’s not true: may Donald Trump get Ebola…) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/155 "2016-03-27T04:10:13Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Trinopus: I don’t just want to flatten my belly a bit - I want it to be completely flat. And like I said – I want a pony. We can’t always get what we want. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/156 "2016-03-27T04:16:48Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > And like I said – I want a pony. We can’t always get what we want. So are you saying it is impossible for me to get a flat belly? What if I went on “The Biggest Loser”? ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/157 "2016-03-27T04:19:42Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Bellies don’t do that. That would be pathological. The human abdomen extends a bit outward… Ok I mean I want my belly to be quite flat, not slighter flatter than it is not. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/158 "2016-03-27T04:21:12Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > So are you saying it is impossible for me to get a flat belly? What if I went on “The Biggest Loser”? A completely flat one? Pretty much. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/159 "2016-03-27T04:27:03Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > A completely flat one? Pretty much. By flat I mean it isn’t sticking out to much. Having muscular abs is ok as well. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916/160 "2016-03-27T04:27:10Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Ok I mean I want my belly to be quite flat, not slighter flatter than it is not. You’re flat out of luck, chump. Not even liposuction will give that result. At this point, you’re just being a jerk. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drfidelius/749916.md?page=9)