# I Pit Drunks Falling on Subway Tracks **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 11, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178 "2009-11-11T14:03:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/21 "2009-11-11T19:26:53Z")
> [@chique](#): > > Naw, there are lots of places that pour stupidly large tap beers - I can think of five of them in my little podunk town. They tend to be along the lines of local TGIF knockoffs and/or brewpubs. Yep. It’s two beers per glass. So she had eight and a half beers. And she weighs 100lbs… ---
**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/22 "2009-11-11T19:29:33Z")
22oz is a standard but not terribly common size. A lot of specialty brewers bottle in 22 ouncers. Also, you can find 22 oz malt liquors in most convenience stores. They’re often referred to as ‘double deuces.’ ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/23 "2009-11-11T19:32:24Z")
> [@velvetjones](#): > > Not that this really matters but I’m wondering if “22 oz beers” is a typo. A typical american can or bottle of beer is 12 oz. A pint is 16 oz depending on whose pouring so I’m wondering where it is that she goes that they’re pouring these huge 22 oz beers? You’d have to have special glasses for that. > > Just saying. Not at bars they aren’t. 16 oz is only a pint here in the states. In Europe a Pint is 20oz. Many bars here in the states have larger than pint sizes (22-23 oz typically), one such bar that I go to at least once a month has “Mondo” size specials for the usual price of a 16oz. The Mondo is 23oz. Also, I personally never buy glass bottles of beer at a bar. For the cost of two beers I can get a six pack. No, if I go to a bar, I want draft beer (usual micros). ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/24 "2009-11-11T22:25:07Z")
> [@picker](#): > > 22oz is a standard but not terribly common size. A lot of specialty brewers bottle in 22 ouncers. > > Also, you can find 22 oz malt liquors in most convenience stores. They’re often referred to as ‘double deuces.’ And let us not forget the 25oz oil cans. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/25 "2009-11-11T23:19:57Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > Yes it does. Look at [this angle](http://www.thebostonchannel.com/video/21563418/index.html). > > In British terms, this is only 4 and a half pints. She needs to practice more. I don’t know who you are, but I think you’re terrific. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/26 "2009-11-12T17:52:26Z")
> [@AmericanMaid](#): > > The amount of coverage in the Boston area has gotten so ridiculous, the hate was rising to dangerous levels - like flames on my face. > > [BBC coverage](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8352198.stm) > > [Italian](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=934P5bQ5Wfk&feature=player_embedded) > > [Spanish](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZGfyIUPi0k) > > [Hungarian](http://www.hirado.hu/Hirek/2009/11/10/16/Megdobbent_video_metro_ele_szedult_egy_reszeg_n_.aspx) > > Now the whole world can get sick of this woman and her drinking problem. I’m not sure about Hungry but those other places have Mass Transit trains in ther major cities. So the story has some ‘local appeal’. ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/27 "2009-11-12T18:55:30Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > I’m not sure about Hungry but those other places have Mass Transit trains in ther major cities. So the story has some ‘local appeal’. Hungry isn’t a country Budapest, the capital of Hungary, has a subway system - actually Line #1 is the 3rd oldest in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/28 "2009-11-12T19:15:50Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > Budapest, the capital of Hungary, has a subway system - actually Line #1 is the 3rd oldest in the world. Indeed, there’s a rather good [film](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373981/) about it (sort of). ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/29 "2009-11-12T20:06:33Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > The girl drank too much. She wanted to get home. She fell down and almost died. > > What the fuck would you have her do? Hop in her car and drive? Exactly. She did exactly what she was supposed to do – she took public transit, possibly opting for it over drinking and driving or accepting a ride from someone who’d been drinking. She drank too much (not a crime, especially if your intention is to get drunk), she had an accident and will forever be embarrassed. If you can point me in the direction of some evidence that she’s an ungrateful jerk or is suing the transit system for not having drunk barriers, I’d happily support this pitting. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/30 "2009-11-12T20:29:16Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > I agree. She got smashed and fell down. It happens. Bummer of a place for it, but if she’d fallen down the stairs onto the platform instead of off the platform onto the tracks, nobody would care, even though it’s only a difference of location, not action. It’s a difference of consequence, too, because she was risking harm to others and not just herself. A panic stop can be dangerous to people on the train. Her falling in front of the train could have ruined the driver’s life; running over someone can be devastating even if the driver was in no way at fault. If her fall had taken someone else down with her, or if some hero had jumped down to try to save her, that would have put even more lives in jeopardy. If you’ve gotten falling-down drunk, don’t put yourself in a situation where falling down endangers yourself and others. That’s the whole reason we prohibit drunk driving, after all, and this was just a difference of degree. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/31 "2009-11-12T20:36:54Z")
Oh, bollocks. Poor chick had a few beers and took a header off a rail platform. Coulda happened to any of us. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/32 "2009-11-12T21:19:24Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Oh, bollocks. Poor chick had a few beers and took a header off a rail platform. Coulda happened to any of us. Well it couldn’t have happened to me from a “few beers.” Maybe when I was 17. And on an empty stomach. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/33 "2009-11-12T21:26:32Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > If you’ve gotten falling-down drunk, don’t put yourself in a situation where falling down endangers yourself and others. That’s the whole reason we prohibit drunk driving, after all, and this was just a difference of degree. So you suggest that we outlaw drunk standing? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/34 "2009-11-12T21:26:58Z")
Four 22-ounce beers is the equivalent of 7-and-a-third bottles. Most women I know would be falling down drunk after anything more than a six-pack. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/35 "2009-11-12T21:30:24Z")
Has she filed a lawsuit yet? I’ll bet the lawyers have already been in contact. That bar was soooooo unscrupulous in serving her all that beer. Had she fallen down the stairs, she would be suing the MBTA for crappy design, lighting, etc… MBTA is probably off the hook if you stagger off the platform onto the tracks. Has she been on any talk shows? Ain’t America grand! ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/36 "2009-11-12T21:31:44Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Four 22-ounce beers is the equivalent of 7-and-a-third bottles. Most women I know would be falling down drunk after anything more than a six-pack. Rookies. ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/37 "2009-11-12T21:35:26Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Rookies. don’t you mean “skinnies” ? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/38 "2009-11-12T21:36:22Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > So you suggest that we outlaw drunk standing? It’s more the falling on the tracks than the standing next to them that bothered me, and I was going for moral opprobrium as much as legal. IANAL all the time. 😛 I suspect, though, that it probably is already against some law or another for an unauthorized person to be on the subway tracks and to interfere with the operation of the train. How about the more extreme case: if she’d pulled someone down with her onto the tracks, is that any less blameworthy than hitting someone with her car while driving drunk? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/39 "2009-11-12T21:38:20Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > don’t you mean “skinnies” ? So only fat people can hold their liquor? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178/40 "2009-11-12T21:38:23Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > don’t you mean “skinnies” ? If you check the Hallowe’en picture thread you’ll find that **MeanOldLady** is not exactly a heifer herself. One might even call her… no, never mind, not going there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-drunks-falling-on-subway-tracks/517178.md?page=3)