# I Pit FinnAgain

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 26, 2006, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670 "2006-12-26T22:28:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/41 "2006-12-28T02:18:06Z")

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> posted by **useless POS**  
> I have never, ever, ever called anybody a troll when I merely thought they were an asshole. Nor have I ever made such an accusation lightly. Nor have I been wrong yet.

In my entire time here, I’ve never even merited a warning from a mod. In my entire time here, only one poster saw fit to call me the above.  
Fuck off and go to hell.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/42 "2006-12-28T02:34:10Z")

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[QUOTE=pantom]  
In my entire time here, I’ve never even merited a warning from a mod. In my entire time here, only one poster saw fit to call me the above.  
Fuck off and go to hell.  
[/QUOTE]  
**Finn** called _you_ a troll?!

That’s fucking ridiculous. You’re no troll, nowhere close.

I was gonna make the point that six different accusations of trollery in two months by one poster is inherently suspect simply on the grounds that one doesn’t run into trolls that often; the mods generally weed them out pretty fast, for which I thank them. The very frequency of the accusations leads one to at least suspect that the poster in question must be looking for trolls so intensely that he’s seeing trolling when it isn’t there, or just using it as a synonym for ‘poster I dislike.’

But it’s always _possible_ that a poster has run into six genuine incidents of trolling in two months. That clearly didn’t happen in **Finn** ’s case, though.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/43 "2006-12-28T04:12:42Z")

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[QUOTE=pantom]  
In my entire time here, I’ve never even merited a warning from a mod. In my entire time here, only one poster saw fit to call me the above.  
Fuck off and go to hell.  
[/QUOTE]

Any chance of a link to where \*\*Finn \*\* called you a troll? I already said I think he is wrong about **RTF**. I am curious what cause his accusation in your case.

Jim

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/44 "2006-12-28T04:52:56Z")

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[QUOTE=FinnAgain]  
I have never, ever, ever called anybody a troll when I merely thought they were an asshole. Nor have I ever made such an accusation lightly. **Nor have I been wrong yet**.  
[/QUOTE]

- bolding mine.

Yep. That’s one claim we can all surely agree on: _in your twisted mind_, you’re never wrong.

Seek therapy. The sooner the better – for you of course. Not like I give a fuck about your self-righteous, batshit crazy, foaming at the mouth, spittle-filled scrolls.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/45 "2006-12-28T05:04:44Z")

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[QUOTE=pantom]  
In my entire time here, I’ve never even merited a warning from a mod. In my entire time here, only one poster saw fit to call me the above.  
Fuck off and go to hell.  
[/QUOTE]

Perhaps we should all stop feeding The Troll.

**Finn Goddamn Again**. Biggest fuckin’ conceited attention whore on the SDMB (in a close contest with the newly surfaced and surprisingly undead, **Liberal** )

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/46 "2006-12-28T05:15:08Z")

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[QUOTE=FinnAgain]  
I have said, numerous times, that I am not infallible. I am simply correct in the accusations I have made.  
[/QUOTE]

Can I have this as a sigline?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/47 "2006-12-28T05:15:41Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
…snip… (in a close contest with the newly surfaced and surprisingly undead, **Liberal** )  
[/QUOTE]  
(My coloring)

Are you now accusing Liberal of being a Vampire? 😉

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/48 "2006-12-28T05:53:40Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
(My coloring)

Are you now accusing Liberal of being a Vampire? 😉  
[/QUOTE]

Surely you know it’s a reference to his “I’m dying” thread which I can’t be arsed to search for at the moment.

What, _exactly_, he’s come back as, I have no clue. Though a vampire, with _his_ train of “though,” wouldn’t exactly surprise me. 😛

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/49 "2006-12-28T06:02:41Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
Surely you know it’s a reference to his “I’m dying” thread which I can’t be arsed to search for at the moment.

What, _exactly_, he’s come back as, I have no clue. Though a vampire, with _his_ train of “though,” wouldn’t exactly surprise me. 😛  
[/QUOTE]

I did, after midnight, I just cannot seem to stop making dumb jokes. It seemed like an easy one.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/50 "2006-12-28T06:36:20Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
(My coloring)

Are you now accusing Liberal of being a Vampire? 😉  
[/QUOTE]  
:dubious:

Wouldn’t that be a zombie, rather?

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/51 "2006-12-28T15:58:33Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
:dubious:

Wouldn’t that be a zombie, rather?  
[/QUOTE]

Hmm…maybe. But aren’t vampires and zombies both part of the “undead”? Or maybe vampires should be called the “undying.”?

Hell’s bells, **ETF** , now you’ve got me all confused. 😕

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/52 "2006-12-28T17:10:05Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
Hmm…maybe. But aren’t vampires and zombies both part of the “undead”? Or maybe vampires should be called the “undying.”?

Hell’s bells, **ETF** , now you’ve got me all confused. 😕  
[/QUOTE]

:: rubs hands in satisfaction ::

My work here is done.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/53 "2006-12-28T17:35:18Z")

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[QUOTE=pantom]

[QUOTE=useless POS]

I have never, ever, ever called anybody a troll when I merely thought they were an asshole. Nor have I ever made such an accusation lightly. Nor have I been wrong yet.  
[/QUOTE]  
In my entire time here, I’ve never even merited a warning from a mod.  
[/QUOTE]  
I’m not going to break your streak, but I’ll point out that we ask people not to change poster’s names in attributed quote tags, so please don’t do that.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/54 "2006-12-28T22:51:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Giraffe]  
I’m not going to break your streak, but I’ll point out that we ask people not to change poster’s names in attributed quote tags, so please don’t do that.  
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OK, but could [this ATMB post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697048&postcount=11) be edited to so indicate? Because I’ve been violating this rule too, due to my incorrect reading of its intent.

> [@C K Dexter Haven](#):
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> Falsely attributing a quote to another user, or modifying another’s post in order to cast him/her in a bad light, even if meant in jest, is grounds for revocation of your posting privileges.
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> This does not apply to parodies to which no name is attached.
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> Text inside {QUOTE} tags is sacrosanct. Normal editorial rules apply: that is, you may indicate omitted portions of a quote by the use of ellipses “…” and you may add text to clarify a word using square brackets (e.g., “her [the sister’s] friend”), but you may not add editorial comments or edit a quote so as to change the substantive meaning; nor may you substitute text such as “some blather” or “more nonsense” inside the {QUOTE} tags.

To do a “quote=FinnAgainWake”, as I recently did in the Pit, neither falsely attributes the quote to another user, nor does it modify the material being quoted in any way. (Admittedly, I _was_ guilty of low humor. Big surprise, huh?)

Maybe **C K** ’s post should begin, “Modifying another’s post, or changing or modifying the poster’s username, in order to cast him/her…”

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/55 "2006-12-28T23:38:36Z")

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I think it was “The Liberal Rule” he was referring to. People kept changing his name to “Liberaltarian,” and a rule was instituted that you can’t change anyone’s user name. Not sure where it went to, I can’t find it anymore.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2006, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/56 "2006-12-28T23:45:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Maureen]  
I think it was “The Liberal Rule” he was referring to. People kept changing his name to “Liberaltarian,” and a rule was instituted that you can’t change anyone’s user name. Not sure where it went to, I can’t find it anymore.  
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Not so much a rule as a guideline. Some people were being jerks about **Lib** changing his name. As I understand it, quote tags are sacrosanct, you can’t change the wording or by leaving things out, the meaning. Outside of quote tags, and especially in the pit, changing a poster’s name to make a point is allowed.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2006, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/57 "2006-12-29T08:33:31Z")

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So, **FinnAgain** , in all seriousness: what is \*your \*definition of a troll?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2006, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/58 "2006-12-31T05:15:25Z")

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[QUOTE=rayh]  
Not so much a rule as a guideline. Some people were being jerks about **Lib** changing his name. As I understand it, quote tags are sacrosanct, you can’t change the wording or by leaving things out, the meaning. Outside of quote tags, and especially in the pit, changing a poster’s name to make a point is allowed.  
[/QUOTE]  
Exactly. There’s no rule against changing someone’s username to mock them (in the Pit, at least). My note was only referring to the case of attributed quotes, where we ask that people not change the attribution field. To be fair, we’re not exactly fanatical about enforcing this, so I’m sure there have been many examples which have either flown under our radar or which we’ve decided are too minor to bother interrupting a thread with (e.g. **RTFirefly** ’s use of **FinnAgainWake** , which is highly unlikely to be confused with anyone but **FinnAgain**.)

Also, sorry about the long delay in responding – I haven’t been online much this past week.

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**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/59 "2007-01-06T23:59:38Z")

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How’s your mama, finnagain? She miss me?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-finnagain/385670/60 "2007-01-07T00:30:51Z")

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You bumped this thread for THAT? Sheesh.

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