# I pit Gannett...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 20, 2011, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544 "2011-11-20T12:46:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/61 "2011-11-29T06:01:43Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> And let’s not even get into the old man rants related to the Occupy protesters. (Hint: they’re all idiots who don’t understand how the economy works, unlike the noble Tea Partiers who are getting things done, or would be, if the queero HOMOS weren’t stopping them with their godless marriages).

What kind of newspaper are you _talking_ about? Conservative tabloids (e.g. _The Washington Times_) that you might see at your parents’ house? We take in the _L.A. Times_, and while every so often there will be an op-ed piece with a surprisingly conservative slant, I’m not seeing any exaltation of the Tea Party, nor anything about “queeros”.

On the other hand if you live in a relatively conservative area then maybe that would account for it. To a certain extent, it’s reasonable to expect a newspaper to reflect the values of its readership. But even so I’d rather see kneejerk reactionism such as you appear to have read about challenged rather than exalted.

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**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/62 "2011-12-01T22:13:27Z")

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More [exciting journalistic developments](http://apple.copydesk.org/2011/12/01/why-the-greenville-s-c-news-needs-a-copy-editor-and-perhaps-a-bar-of-soap/) out of The Greenville News today…  
fuck

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/63 "2011-12-01T22:19:57Z")

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That post links to [another one](http://jimromenesko.com/2011/12/01/oops-f-word-slips-into-greenville-news-story/) by Jim Romenesko that then links to a [SDMB thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=202563).

Edited to add, and actually what he quotes is from a post by **Exapno Mapcase** linking to a [Facebook page](http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=37182527980&topic=6134).

Wheels within wheels.

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/64 "2011-12-09T17:04:25Z")

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This is why I like newspapers, e-edition or otherwise in print:

On the front page - [In Tough Times, a Boom in Cremations as a Way to Save Money](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/09/us/in-economic-downturn-survivors-turning-to-cremations-over-burials.html?ref=todayspaper)

and then (in the same edition)

In the National section, on A14 - [Air Force Apologizes For Disposal Of Remains: Incinerated Body Parts Of War Dead in Landfill](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/09/us/air-force-apologizes-for-disposal-of-remains.html?ref=todayspaper)  
The juxtapostion! 😛

Better yet: the editors should have put both headlines on the front page, next to each other.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/65 "2011-12-10T15:32:11Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Wheels within wheels.

In the future, we will all be journalists for fifteen minutes.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/66 "2019-01-15T06:12:55Z")

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Updating this thread for those of you who pitted Gannett there is a good chance it will be bought out and you shortly be looking back with regret.

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> A New York hedge fund known for gutting newsrooms is backing a hostile takeover bid for Gannett, the publisher of USA Today and 100 other newspapers. The unsolicited offer, worth over $1.3 billion, would create the largest newspaper company in the United States and further consolidate a struggling industry.
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> In an open letter to the Gannett board, MNG Enterprises, which is owned by the hedge fund Alden Global Capital, offered on Monday to pay $12 cash per Gannett share, a 23 percent premium on the company’s closing price on Friday. Gannett shares were trading about 19 percent higher around midday.

[http://www.startribune.com/hedge-fund-called-destroyer-of-newspapers-bids-for-usa-today-owner-gannett/504338792/](http://www.startribune.com/hedge-fund-called-destroyer-of-newspapers-bids-for-usa-today-owner-gannett/504338792/)

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> Digital First has been as aggressive as any player at slicing expenses and staff. Among its 12 papers that are represented by unions—including large metros like the Denver Post—the company has shaved newsrooms down to less than one-third the size of what they were in 2012. The 12 union papers had staff of 1,552 in 2012, compared with 487 by last November

[https://www.wsj.com/articles/hostile-bid-for-gannett-rattles-some-in-the-newspaper-business-11547515298](https://www.wsj.com/articles/hostile-bid-for-gannett-rattles-some-in-the-newspaper-business-11547515298)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/67 "2019-01-15T15:03:13Z")

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Meh. Gannett’s _own_ business model was to pare down news staff to the bone, so I’m not sure what difference it makes. Baby Boomers have killed off newspapers.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/68 "2019-01-15T15:27:01Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Meh. Gannett’s _own_ business model was to pare down news staff to the bone, so I’m not sure what difference it makes. Baby Boomers have killed off newspapers.

The Techonlogical change has. it is quite childish to blame this on a generation.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/69 "2019-01-15T17:35:43Z")

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It’s a [joke](https://the-peak.ca/2018/02/things-millenials-have-killed/).

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/70 "2019-01-15T17:51:40Z")

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That local paper I mentioned above was bought out by Gannett, and the staff slashed. Enough so that some of them went out and started their own competing local newspaper.

If Gannett gets bought out and further slashed, maybe the other paper can pick up a few reporters.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/71 "2019-01-15T18:26:30Z")

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I worked for Hearst Corp. for years at the SF Chronicle (earlier for the SF Examiner when they owned that). There is truly something to be said for a family-held corporation. They lost millions when they bought the Chronicle (mostly poor timing vs. the internet) but they hung on and refused to sell, and now they are turning a small profit there. Ordinary shareholders would not have sat still for that for even one year, let alone the 13 or 14 years it took to shake things out and settle into their current condition. So you can also say that corporation shareholders killed newspapers by their demands for unrealistic profits no matter what.

Those who have seen the Chronicle lately will understand that it is a shadow of its former self, but at least it isn’t being gutted for its assets, in fact Hearst is still investing in this property.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/72 "2024-03-21T03:31:55Z")

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> **[Gannett, McClatchy news chains say they will stop using Associated Press content](https://apnews.com/article/gannett-associated-press-contract-97405e4715c9a25d21477b992028db2a)**
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> The media company Gannett says it will stop using stories, video and images from The Associated Press later this month.

It’s odd that Gannett will stop using AP stories, videos and images beginning March 25 when they have a contract through the end of the year. But it has signed an agreement with Reuters. Cheaper?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/73 "2024-03-21T04:12:07Z")

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My local paper is a McClatchy publication. Since McClatchy got bought out in 2020, they’ve cut publication to three days a week, moved printing out of town, switched to delivering the paper by mail instead of delivery people, paywalled everything on the website including stuff they used to provide for free as a public service (e.g. restaurant health inspection reports) and their Facebook feed is nothing but clickbait stuff from wire services that has nothing to do with our area.

The local subreddit is a more reliable way of finding out what’s going on in town these days.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/74 "2024-03-22T00:53:56Z")

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What, do they run two or three days worth of comic strips per issue?

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**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/75 "2024-03-22T10:47:08Z")

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why purchase parts of a former tree to read what happened yesterday (iow: things that I already read y’day) …

in our ever faster paced world, NP seem ever further removed and irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-gannett/603544/76 "2024-03-24T04:00:44Z")

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The fundamental problem for local newspapers is that they relied on a monopoly on **all** information, and that’s utterly impossible to maintain today. Most people never cared about corruption at city hall, they just wanted the weather, the TV listings, the grocery coupons, the movie times, the classified ads, the sports scores, etc. The Internet (and even cable TV) created _better_ places to get that kind of basic nuts-and-bolts information, so now the only people who subscribe are people who earnestly care about _journalism_, and that’s not enough to pay for a lot of journalism, so newspapers end up in a death spiral.

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