# I pit General Casey's political correctness **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 8, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807 "2009-11-08T16:17:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bri1600bv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@bri1600bv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bri1600bv)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/61 "2009-11-09T18:34:23Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Religion had nothing to do with it. Crazy had everything to do with it. The fact that the crazy expressed itself as religious mania is a normal, and unremarkable part of mental illness. OK, fine, but religion had everything to do with why he was ignored. It’s not polite to be against diversity. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/62 "2009-11-09T18:36:06Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > The guy says at a conference that non-Muslims should be beheaded (after having boiling oil poured down their throats). He hands out Korans a few hours before killing soldiers. He says the war against terrorism is a war against Islam. > > Based on this, religion had NOTHING to do with his actions. Nothing. Anyone who says they did is RACIST. Ok. I’m going with blindingly stupid in your case. First, for the umpteeth time, nobody is being called a racist here. Secondly, I’m pretty sure you’ll find that I said that maybe it will turn out that this was a deliberate act of terrorism. > [@](#): > > Liberalism truly is a mental disorder. Do you get more points on how willfully you can ignore reality? Your brand of conservatism is brain dead. You knee jerk at the smallest hint of a liberal idea. Really, it is guys like you that make real conservatives look like idiots. > [@](#): > > Religion had NOTHING to do with the guy who shot the abortionist either. Well, people didn’t jump to some sort of final conclusion based on that guy’s name. Not more than a half hour after people knew the guy was a Muslim, I started reading knee jerk reactions about how it was obviously a terrorist act. Like I said, if it were a white guy with a regular American sounding name, NOBODY would have drawn a terrorist conclusion immediately. But give the guy a Muslim name well there ya have it. This was my personal experience reading stuff on the net. Draw your own conclusions. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/63 "2009-11-09T18:37:17Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > OK, fine, but religion had everything to do with why he was ignored. It’s not polite to be against diversity. Bullshit. Incompetence is a far more likely answer. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/64 "2009-11-09T18:38:15Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > This is exactly the kind of idiotic, sloppy thinking I’m talking about. > > Christians, or people who nominally are, kill people. But do they do it because of their religion? Or in spite of it? Do they go around telling people that “God commands me to kill”? If so, they’d probably get locked up. We have innumerable examples of Christians killing people because they think God told them to do it. A Jew assasinated the Prime Minister of Israel because he thought God wanted him to do it. No religion is immune. People will either use it as an excuse, or express religious mania as part of their ilness. The specific religion is irrelevant. > [@](#): > > And yes, it’s policitical correctness. There’s no such thing. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/65 "2009-11-09T18:38:27Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > And yes, it’s policitical correctness. Anyone who complains would get shouted down by \*\*self-righteous pricks \*\*like you who would denounce them as racists and pat themselves on the back. It doesn’t matter how many times the complainers couch themselves in “I’m not against Muslims but…”, or “I know 99%+ of Muslims are nice people but there’s this guy who’s going around saying non-Muslims should be beheaded…not sure if should be counseling our soldiers”, idiots like you can’t wait to jump down their throats and denounce them as racists. Pot meet kettle, Capt. Righteousness. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/66 "2009-11-09T18:39:38Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > OK, fine, but religion had everything to do with why he was ignored. It’s not polite to be against diversity. Both of these statements show ignorance of military culture. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/67 "2009-11-09T18:40:38Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > Liberalism truly is a mental disorder. Do you get more points on how willfully you can ignore reality? I don’t think their problem is so much _ignoring_ reality as _questioning_ it - or viewing it from the wrong end of the telescope, as some not-yet-reached consensus of enlightened humanity rather than the wishes of those in power. Whereas you, sir, have moral clarity: might doesn’t make right, but fuck right - might makes _reality._ Oh yes: fuck your moral clarity, and while you’re at it, fuck you. Good day sir. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/68 "2009-11-09T18:43:38Z")
From the [AP](http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091108/D9BRD8GO1.html) > [@](#): > > Danquah assumed the military’s chain of command knew about Hasan’s doubts, which had been known for more than a year to classmates at the Maryland graduate military medical program. His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan’s “anti-American propaganda,” but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal complaint. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/69 "2009-11-09T18:46:14Z")
How would these students know why the officers did or didn’t file a complaint? This sounds like students just talking out of their asses to me. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kearsen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/70 "2009-11-09T19:11:25Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > How would these students know why the officers did or didn’t file a complaint? > > This sounds like students just talking out of their asses to me. And you are going to speak against what they thought (they actually being privy to this man) Laughable. Why don’t we wait a few days and see what shakes out? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/71 "2009-11-09T19:13:28Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > [Officials: U.S. Army Told of Hasan's Contacts with al Qaeda - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/story?id=9030873) > > Here you go douche bag. > > Yes, anyone who could possibly say anything negative about this poor opressed Muslim is not believable. There, that wasn’t so difficult, was it? Hmm. Apparently, it was. **Private Message from bri1600bv** : > [@](#): > > fuck you > > * * * > > You’re a fucking ignorant cunt. I’d gut you if I met you in public. ---
**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/72 "2009-11-09T19:17:09Z")
> [@bri1600bv](#): > > The guy says at a conference that non-Muslims should be beheaded (after having boiling oil poured down their throats)… Once again, would you have a cite for that? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/73 "2009-11-09T19:18:10Z")
> [@Kearsen](#): > > And you are going to speak against what they thought (they actually being privy to this man) > Laughable. No, I’m “speaking against” their ability to be mind readers and know why their officers decide whether or not to file complaints. ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/74 "2009-11-09T19:27:51Z")
> [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](#): > > Once again, would you have a cite for that? [Fort Hood gunman had told colleagues that infidels should have their throats cut.](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6526030/Fort-Hood-gunman-had-told-US-military-colleagues-that-infidels-should-have-their-throats-cut.html) ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kearsen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/75 "2009-11-09T19:36:24Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No, I’m “speaking against” their ability to be mind readers and know why their officers decide whether or not to file complaints. They are with the officers, maybe they talked about it? Do you know what they did or didn’t talk about or otherwise “know”? ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/76 "2009-11-09T19:42:15Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **Private Message from bri1600bv** : Ban please. We don’t need this kind of shit on the dope. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kearsen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/77 "2009-11-09T19:44:04Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Ban please. > > We don’t need this kind of shit on the dope. He was a douche, private or otherwise, but banning someone from something they spouted in a PM is not something I’d like to see done. Posting of private messages should be discouraged. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/78 "2009-11-09T19:46:00Z")
> [@Kearsen](#): > > He was a douche, private or otherwise, but banning someone from something they spouted in a PM is not something I’d like to see done. > Posting of private messages should be discouraged. Fuck that. First, PMs are not private. We’ve been over that who knows how many times. And secondly threats of violence should NEVER be acceptable. As far as I’m concerned people who make those kind of threats should be kicked to the curb. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/79 "2009-11-09T19:46:28Z")
> [@Kearsen](#): > > They are with the officers, maybe they talked about it? Do you know what they did or didn’t talk about or otherwise “know”? Do you? The point is, no one is saying “I didn’t file a complaint because he was a Muslim.” You only have “students” who are saying they think their complaints were ignored by faculty because of “political correctness.” In other words, we have nothing but hearsay at best, and (more likely) tendentious speculation at worst. Wake me up when you actually have some meaningful evidence, not carping students. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/80 "2009-11-09T19:48:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > There, that wasn’t so difficult, was it? > > Hmm. Apparently, it was. > > **Private Message from bri1600bv** : Did you report this to a mod? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807.md?page=5)