# I pit General Casey's political correctness

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 8, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807 "2009-11-08T16:17:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/101 "2009-11-10T01:29:38Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> Your brand of conservatism is brain dead. You knee jerk at the smallest hint of a liberal idea.

Waiwaiwaiwaiwait. First it’s righty PC. Now there are knee-jerk conservatives? :dubious: Someone needs to read up on their clichés…

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/102 "2009-11-10T02:06:09Z")

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Nothing about the OP or topic at hand, and IANAMoA, but just wanting to say that Bri1 will eventually be banned. With his/her behavior and OPs he/she has written him/herself…it’s just a matter of WHEN, not IF.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/103 "2009-11-10T02:13:31Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> Waiwaiwaiwaiwait. First it’s righty PC. Now there are knee-jerk conservatives? :dubious: Someone needs to read up on their clichés…

Knee jerk conservative. Singular.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/104 "2009-11-10T03:09:29Z")

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So, a guy who’s a Muslilm goes nuts, do we expect that the voices in his head will be Unitarian?

Of course, our first question is, is this guy nuts, nuts in an organic way, schizophrenic, or suffering from some stress induced psychosis? But is the guy who follows orders from his dog somehow more authentically crazy than the guy who hears from an invisible sky pixie that rules the Universe?

If our historical circumstances were different, we wouldn’t be looking to a question of treachery, we would regard deranged religiosity as just another of a constellation of symptoms. If a Catholic went insane and shot some soldiers because he thinks God told him to, we wouldn’t be worried that the Jesuits were infiltrating our armed forces.

It shouldn’t surprise us at all that someones religious persuasion would figure prominently if that person suffers psychosis. That it doesn’t more commonly is probably more a reflection of the fact that most of us wear our religious persuasions rather lightly, that our religious convictions (such as they are) don’t figure prominently in our thinking to begin with.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/105 "2009-11-10T11:02:31Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> You could interpret what he said to mean “if we can’t find a positive out of this negative, we are in for some rough times”… would that be BS too?

No… great idea! How bout we learn not to tiptoe around protected classes if there is reason to believe someone could be a problem??

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/106 "2009-11-10T11:06:19Z")

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> [@chique](#):
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> I don’t understand why you think that’s bullshit. Explain, please? I don’t want to speculate so I’d prefer it if you spelled it out for me.

You’re kidding me right?

“Diversity” is more important than the dead soldiers???

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/107 "2009-11-10T11:12:29Z")

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Whaddayaknow?

I was 48 hours out front of Morning Joe where Barnicle and the others were discussing the “political correctness” a few minutes ago.

I’m sure many of you good libs were watching.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/108 "2009-11-10T11:19:53Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Nothing about the OP or topic at hand, and IANAMoA, but just wanting to say that Bri1 will eventually be banned. With his/her behavior and OPs he/she has written him/herself…it’s just a matter of WHEN, not IF.

Speaking of incoherent… was I just insulted? Please explain.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/109 "2009-11-10T11:33:45Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> Speaking of incoherent… was I just insulted? Please explain.

I believe that **Idle Thoughts** was speaking of the OPs written by **Bri1600bv** and not yours at all. No insult.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/110 "2009-11-10T11:49:04Z")

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> [@Cyros](#):
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> I believe that **Idle Thoughts** was speaking of the OPs written by **Bri1600bv** and not yours at all. No insult.

I can see that now… sorry for my jerky knee, **Idle**!

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/111 "2009-11-10T12:11:09Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Both of these statements show ignorance of military culture.

I have no experience with military culture but I have heard of those kinds of mindsets etc.

I’ve also heard, however, of recent tendencies to use the military for things other than fighting wars … and also of military lawyers taking over. Just things I’ve heard.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/112 "2009-11-10T14:35:43Z")

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From where, your ass?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/113 "2009-11-10T14:43:46Z")

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Apparently from Joe Scarborough’s upcoming Thursday broadcast.

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/114 "2009-11-10T15:59:01Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
So, a guy who’s a Muslilm goes nuts, do we expect that the voices in his head will be Unitarian?  
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You never expect the [Unitarian Jihad](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/04/08/DDG27BCFLG1.DTL).

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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/115 "2009-11-10T17:32:41Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> You’re kidding me right?
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> “Diversity” is more important than the dead soldiers???

No, I’m not kidding you. Here’s the entire quote surrounding the words you think are bullshit:

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> Speculation could potentially heighten backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers and what happened at Fort Hood was a tragedy, but I believe it would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty here. It’s not just about Muslims, we have a very diverse army, we have very diverse society and that gives us all strength.

I want you to highlight the part you think is bullshit and tell me why you think that.

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**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/116 "2009-11-10T22:07:21Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Mental illness is a natural disaster. That’s correct. Religion doesn’t make people crazy, and no one ever even tries to connect these dots when Christians do it.

What mental illness has Hasan been diagnosed with? And how did you come by this information?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/117 "2009-11-10T22:09:28Z")

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He just shot ~15 people. That means he’s _fucking crazy_.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/118 "2009-11-10T22:28:59Z")

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Correct, when taken in conjunction with what we know of his increasing religious mania, homicidal ideation and probable psychosis leading up to it.

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**Author:** ![bri1600bv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@bri1600bv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bri1600bv)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/119 "2009-11-11T01:50:12Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> He just shot ~15 people. That means he’s _fucking crazy_.

No it doesn’t. Maybe he considered himself at war. You might think it’s crazy but it fits into his belief system very well, apparently.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-general-caseys-political-correctness/516807/120 "2009-11-11T02:25:35Z")

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Actually, it doesn’t at all. That’s one of the reasons we know he was crazy.

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