Considering that there is virtually no history of voter fraud in the US, these actions strike me as unecessary partisan maneuvering:
If people are really worried about people voting twice, they could adopt the solution Iraq did – dye thumbs purple after voting:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20050130/ai_n11500583/
I don’t think they had to produce IDs to vote, either.
This is the fundamental problem…the right and those who swallow their ‘talking points’ are so damn concerned with finding ways to exclude folks from the process of government. Try to give a shit about more than you and yours for once and maybe you’ll realize we’re all in this mess together.
Sheesh.
You’re presenting a false dichotomy here. It isn’t “the honor system” now. We’ve also never had a problem in the US with voter fraud, so any suggestion that this is a needed remedy is disingenuous. It’s a “solution” to a problem that doesn’t exist. Everybody knows the purpose of these laws. We’re all adults here.
That whingeing cretins would arrive to defend GOP’s version of “democracy” is no surprise.
There are right-wing Dopers with 100+ IQs who pretend not to be mean-spirited assholes. It will be amusing to hear their takes on this matter.
“Figure out’s” got nothing to do with it.
I though you righties were supposed to be against the big bad governement impeding people’s rights. Only if it’s white, Christian, heterosexual (or at least closeted) teabaggers, huh? Don’t you guys whine like little girls if the gummint wants to see an ID when you buy a gun?
Just be honest. You support these laws because you hope it will stop blacks and Mexicans from voting. Let’s all be honest. Don’t insult our intelligence.
Why do I suspect that Republicans would be perfectly happy with all the “brown” votes they could muster?
This is politics. Stop trying to make it about race.
Besides, only U.S. citizens over the age of 18 are eligible to vote, so there’s absolutely nothing wrong with requirements that would-be voters demonstrate their eligibility. Otherwise there’d be no point to the laws at all and we might as well throw the polls open to all comers, and I don’t know of any country in the world that allows that.
So sorry, but if a person wants to participate in governing this country they have to do it legally, no matter how much your side may benefit otherwise.
I would think you wouldn’t want ID-less people voting, purely on humanitarian grounds. They’d probably get run over crossing the street to the polling place, because you have to understand how a crosswalk works. You wouldn’t want that on your conscience, would you?
Who are these people who can’t figure out how to get an ID? Can they even dial a phone or get the front door open? How do they buy groceries and feed themselves? Forget reading a transit map, these people are going to need guidance just to find the bus stop.
I can see it now: The League of Women Voters will be sponsoring a workshop called “The Promise of Democracy: How to Vote When You’re a Dumbass” Lesson one will be that the voting machine only looks like a changing booth. Don’t take your pants off.
The Board of Elections will produce a bouncy, easy-to-understand video featuring the cast of Sesame Street with the lovable Elmo. Oscar the Grouch will demand Elmo’s ID, only to be subdued by a stern Gordon, who will explain why Oscar is both racist and homophobic. Elmo will then be seen pulling the big lever with his furry little arms, as the story of voting rights is told through interpretive dance.
On the topic of right-wing cretins, it is worth reminding ourselves that this ilk cannot read more than a few sentences at a time without their eyes glazing over. Cretins’ comments just in this thread prove they didn’t read the page linked by OP. Similarly, on the webpage cited in a current GD thread we see a Republican operative confess to such cynical ploys as
Yet polliwog brains let their little synapses demonstrate ignorance by focusing on half-truths, e.g.
Housepainter: Is your ignorance here willful or just due to laziness?
The fact that they can’t get them is the point. Racism is beside the point. They want to suppress minority votes, not for racist reasons (though that particular cock vein is very blue and throbbing within the American political right), but because they tend to vote Democratic. If they voted GOP, you would see no concern at all about voter ID.
For the sake of this argument you may stipulate that I hate all people with a skin color darker than my own. Please continue with your learned treatise on why morons and illiterates should be allowed to vote.
Stunning.
Not my suggestion at all. See my post above.
Because there would be no Republican party if they didn’t.
I’m sure they’d love to have those votes, but making it harder for them to vote for Democrats is the next best thing.
You, like most hysterical liberals, wouldn’t know disenfranchisement if it crapped in your Wheaties. Is it disenfranchisement that the poor must obtain their own transportation to the polling place? Here’s an idea - why don’t you just vote for them? You already know how they’re going to vote, so just go right on down there and vote a straight Democrat ticket. But do it quick, before they start asking for ID.
Sorry, but you complained about Republicans and their “fear” of brown people with civil rights, it sounded like you were accusing them of racism. Glad to hear this is not the case.
You might want to ask Dio to explain it to you. He at least has demonstrated the knowledge that it isn’t about race.
Meh. The Democrats specifically targe black and Hispanic communities in get-out-the-vote campaigns, even going so far as to provide transportation to the polling booth. It’s only to be expected that if you’re going to use race to gain votes, the opposition will target those same groups similarly to make sure that only the legally qualified among them get to vote.
And there’s nothing wrong with that either.
You really do think you have different rights then they do, don’t you?
I’m not hysterical. I’m just looking in interest at the bag of filth you pull your morals from.
I note that you haven’t addressed the actual issue. Instead you bring up things like transportation. You do this because on some level you know you’re wrong, but you are unable to face it.
This isn’t all that unusual, conservatives tend to be angry cowards who want to fight wars with other people’s sons.
It’s bad form to accuse others of race baiting and then engage in it yourself.
SA just wants to return to that idyllic world of the '60s where poll taxes and literacy tests kept the “riff raff” out.
After all, says SA, you can’t expect “riff raff” to vote for the *right *people, can we?
I’m sorry but this has to be one of the most foolish comments I’ve heard in a while.
Talk to people from Chicago or Boston about Richard Daley or James Michael Curley or just read Tip O’Neil’s biography where he practically brags about tall the “tricks” they used to pull in Boston politics.
Where do you think the saying, “Vote early and vote often came from”.
Or, more recently, talk to the people of Miami about Joe Carollo and Xavier Suarez.
As already noted the US has a long history of voter fraud and the phrase “Vote early, vote often and vote Democratic” didn’t spring from nowhere. What’s wrong with asking people to prove they are who they say they are in order to vote.
Once more, this is a case where most foreigners probably laugh at us when they hear these arguments.
I could be wrong, but I’m almost 100% sure that everyone in Canada and Europe has to produce IDs in order to vote.